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Okay. Stand up here and start bill, we have to travel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, okay. Excellent. It was, Yeah. I

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just don't think so. Yeah, we'll work the second speech working on the property. Yeah. Yes, yeah. Oh yeah. And I got fired aware for him and a couple of white guys that travel through these papers. Mhm. I don't know if you've seen

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Modesto bee yesterday? How big is the Klan in this area? And how long have you been active? Well, we've been underground here for six years and cars being active. We really started the last six months. Really coming out in the open. How many members do you

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have? I can't tell you that there's been a lot of factionalism in the clan. What faction do you represent? And factual is um, you mean the splinters, that's people that don't more or less go to the by rules like, you know the rules that we stand

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by. We're a peaceful group. We don't file nobody's rights unless ours are violated. Unless there's forces put on upon us. And a lot of these guys, they think the only way you can get anything is out knocking heads. So we don't go that route. You know,

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what about Metzger's group in san Diego? You have anything to do with them? As far as doing anything with them. You know, we haven't had anything direct dealings with them. But you know, if they want to come to one of our rallies, Just something peaceful, that's

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fine. But you know, if they come to cause trouble. You just don't let them in. What's the Klan? What do you stand for now? Why do you put on this car? Why do I stand for this? I believe in white people, people rights for whites. I

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believe in America first constitution and right for free assembly. Free rally. Are you ever ashamed or do you feel embarrassed by the history of the Klan and other clan activities? The night rider history and violence going back over 200 years ago? What happened 200 years ago?

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Like I said, the invisible empire don't have no illegal actions against them has ever been proven. And if there is any done that we take care of that ourselves and they are turned over to the police department when somebody signs up, they are immediately checked out

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In 24 hours. I can tell you where they come from, what they do, where they go to squad, who their parents are there any felonies they don't get in? What are your goals now? I mean, why organized now and do this kind of activity to save

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America for the people who are here. You know, If you don't stand up and take face now, they're gonna keep bringing these refugees in and the app will only hold so much and pretty soon it's gonna turn upside down in the next five years, they're supposed

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to bring another 500,000 refugees in here on the free taxpayer gravy train, $563 a month for each individual stand here is going to have to pay for these people now carter when he brought all those Cubans in here. He never asked the public anybody. He broke

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every law in the nation and the constitution. He just wanted to bring him in. Now you don't see any of these other countries coming and saying here, there's the door just come in and get in. Now a white person when he comes in from England Britain

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France holland. They gotta wait five years possibly. They got to have a job here. They gotta have relatives and they got to have money when they come here or they don't get in. So you're basically allow 5000. Your basic position now is anti immigration that for

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Cubans into chinese, our main object is a communist in this country. As far as the blacks worrying about us bothering them for Spanx people, they don't have no worries because like I said, we don't go on this side of town and cause them any problem. And

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we never say anything bad about them. I never had personally. I got spanish friends. I've got black friends and that's just the way it is. Why the clan. I mean with those goals that you're trying to say why associate with the Klan and put what other

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white groups there is a stick up for equal rights for white people. What about churches or unions or any kind of groups that push for all kinds. Uh, who, who runs your church is the biggest part of it. Who does run the church is? Well, I

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think quite a few. The church is run by the jewish population. Churches. Your businesses are run by jewish population. Quite a bit of your government is run by the jewish baptist catholic protestant churches, catholic catholic clan didn't used to let Catholics in. But you are a

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catholic and the Klan has changed its policy. Do you think the Klan might one day change its policy and let other groups that they've been opposed to in the past in Hispanics? Or blacks? Not blacks or Hispanics. No. Ah why did the Klan used to keep

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out Catholics? And why have they changed? Well, that was just an old deal tradition years ago that the, you know, Catholics more or less entered great with all other races and stuff too. And they kind of opposed, but not now, it's just, you know, people start

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people in America are starting to wake up what this government is doing. I got to ask you a personal question. Do you ever find it silly to be a grown man and to put on this kind of outfit. Now, if you believe in white people, I

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don't know, everybody else got equal rights. You know, whites ought to have some too. The gays got right to march. The american Nazi Party there. You've got the right to march? The Communist Party's got a right to march. The NWS CPS has got the right to

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march. I figure I'm american. I pay taxes. The Klan ought to have a right to march to final question. I still don't quite understand why the clan of any other particular group or with the goals that you've talked about has got enough guts to come out

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front and tell it how it is. I'll go anywhere in this town or anywhere in any other town and I'll get right up and tell the people what I think. If they want to shoot me, that's fine. But when they shoot, they better look out because

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I'll shoot back. I got a right to defend myself. All right. But I mean, it's very peaceful here today. No one is stopping and that kind of thing. That is a free country, everybody will have a right to free assembly. That's what we're saying. But the

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government is trying to stop you from having that free assembly. They're trying to make you integrate with these people. We feel it's a free country. If you don't want to get these people, you shouldn't have to. So communism, refugees, integration. Yeah, communism's our main goal. You

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know, you say look underneath your bed to find a communist. If you don't have to know more there in your churches, there, in your schools, there, in your government, You name it with Ronald Reagan as President. You're still worried about communism. Yeah. It's got to be

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stopped someplace. Okay. That's it. Okay, thank you. You're not even leaving a crop the mhm. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah baby. How how they uneducated spelling. I think our example is,

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you know, okay here runs he moved incompetent dog business. We'll have free speech and tell her, Well, that's a good one. We don't, we don't, we don't laugh big shots up there. We've got some money that sounds attractive. But nevertheless, I believe to be a generation

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would be found with my fellow. I believe freedom of choice. If you want to live in all white names, we go to all white schools were all white shirts out of your body. Your choice, not the government talent. You've got it and integrate. Yeah. Black and

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red. Believe it forest the same time I say polarization. All right. You know, you got there. You're going back there. Yeah. You got about 15 scratches. Yeah, cheers. What's your name of the view? Yeah, We believe good come out and listen to what we said. Thank

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you. Really. Um why are you here? And how's your faction of the clan doing in the state of California? The invisible empire. Well, we have the rally this afternoon in series of course I'm here for that. I will be meeting with clan leaders from here to

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southern California for training and some promotions are in line and just general planning of strategy for the following year for this year. What's the clan up to these days? What are your goals? What do you stand for? Well, our number one enemy in this country and

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our view is communism, we're trying to combat that in any way that we can we are opposed strongly to affirmative action, forced bussing all of the government's programs that give preferential treatment to minorities over the majority. Now, you've been quoted before as saying that a race

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war in this country is inevitable and you have supposedly paramilitary training camps in the south where you're preparing for that. Do you believe that? That's true? Well, I don't like to call it a race war. I'd like to call it a racial uprising or a conflict.

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What have you believe? The media changes at the race war? But we feel, yes, that down the line that will occur at such time as either the government starts responding to the majority of the people and starts putting an end to the affirmative action and forced

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bussing. We feel that the minorities will start riding and looting and burning and killing. And we feel strongly that it's it's a very good possibility that will become so widespread throughout the country, that the police and even the National Guard will not be able to properly

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handle the situation. Don't you think that by clan organizing Klan activities, paramilitary training, that you're in fact contributing to that kind of racial tension reminds me, for instance, in this state Charles? Manson, the mass murderer used to talk about the inevitability of a race war. Well,

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we're not promoting a race war. If you're inferring that are getting prepared, is bringing the race war on. That's, that's asinine. That's like accusing the United States of asking for war because they're keeping an army in the navy and Air force. Uh, we have seen in

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this country, in fact, millions of americans are starting to arm themselves because of the increased violence and the violence in this country perpetuated mostly by minorities, mostly by negroes. They're less than 12% of the population and the FBI's uniform crime report each year shows plainly that

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they commit over 80% of the violent crimes as murder, rape, robbery. Uh, so the people have to do something to defend themselves. The clan is now, I understand taking Catholics in it before the clan wouldn't let Catholics in. You see a time in the future when

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Hispanics or blacks or others would be leading the clan? No, why not? We're a segregationist organization Down the line down the line, 100%. What about factionalism in the clan? Do you get along with metzger and some of the other Klan factions in this state. I get

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along with all Klan organizations, we have some differences of opinion, but we're all fighting for basically the same thing and we have room for 40 clans in this country. There's been some talk that in this state, certain people calling themselves clan members are now into drugs

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or kind of a biker element in the clan? What do you think about that? We don't have any of the invisible empire that I'm aware of and as we find them, we do expel them from the organization. Clansmen are not perfect, we have Klansmen that commit

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crimes just like do you have policemen that commit crimes or you have businessmen and commit crimes? But we discharged them from the organization as soon as we find that they are committing illegal acts. What about Ronald Reagan? What do you think of him? I think Reagan

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has the potential to be the greatest president this country has seen probably since Abraham Lincoln. Last question. Personal question, do you ever feel, not that you're in uniform now, Do you ever feel when you put on the white sheets a little embarrassed or silly, that that's

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the kind of thing a grown person shouldn't be doing? Really? Do you think the pope is embarrassed when he puts on his robe and pointed hat? No, I'm proud of my uniform. Uh, very proud of it, the same as policemen. Are proud of theirs, I'm sure.

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And the soldiers are proud of, There's the Klan is proud of ours that goes for cross burnings to uh, it's not termed a cross burning, it's a cross lighting, It is a sacred and religious ceremony of the clan to us. It signifies that christ is the

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light of the world and then his light destroys darkness. Have you ever felt any personal shame for any acts of violence that the Klan has committed throughout its history To begin with, the Klan has never committed any acts of violence. Never individual. Never individual Klansmen have.

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That's like saying, asking jimmy carter, are you ashamed of the acts of violence that democrats that the Democratic Party has committed? Uh, simply because democrats commit the acts? It's really ridiculous. Uh, the Klan has never been accused as an organization of perpetuating any violence, only individual

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Klansmen. And we do condemn that incidentally, Including like the murder of civil rights workers in the south during the 60s. The murder of anyone. Anytime we condemn we, you know, murder is an illegal act and we don't condone it. Neither of our people or anyone else.

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Okay, thanks. Yeah. Mm hmm. Um, he took off and I haven't seen him since I'm going to duck under. You're going, oh, the car with the cars. Yeah. Rather and that some of you are going to be a little bit confused

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and say, oh, is this part of the part of the coalition? It is not peoples tribune the communist ideal. Mm hmm. That's the thing you want as you have often and the present officeholders because I know of no one. Okay. Okay. The Klan is merely the,

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the most extreme and ugliest form of racism. It stands as a symbol of what we propose, but we also oppose racism and violence of any type, help each other out the tent on your way out, pin them on the tree. If you notice the hearts, the

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hearts of many Children of the many faces. All searching for equality, please pin those on the tree on your way out outside. We'll have people organizing that will be our big effort at the end. Are singing one of the councilman who wants to raise his position

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with and he's here with me. Thank you very much. Thank you. Mhm, mm hmm. Mhm, mm hmm. We'll lock hand in hand today. Mm hmm. Mentioned wow, mm hmm. Mhm. Thank you. Okay, how about the following song that we wanted to do?

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We shall not be, we shall not be moved. Right, okay. Mhm. 100 rounds. Mr martin. What is the best response to the clan emerging in a rural community like this? I think the best response to a clan

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emerging in a community like this is number one. We want to let the Klan know that we feel that there is no place in the community for the Klan. And second, we don't want To give them a platform like a lot of publicity. We think the

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best is to keep them in obscurity where they belong now, what's this multicultural coalition been doing to stop the Klan? Multi coalition has been taken about a 34 avenue first, education, educating our young people is what the Klan is all about so that they can recognize,

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you know what the clan stand for and secondly, as you know that we're coming out very vocal to let the Klan know that we are against what they stand for and we feel that there is no place for them in the county and what kind of

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groups have come together in this coalition. The coalition consists of several church groups, Westside ministerial alliance, of course, the Modesto branch of the N A A C P la casa Peace Center and several other organizations. Do you think there's been a kind of revival of civil

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rights spirit as a result of this organizing against the Klan that might go on into other areas? Yes, I think it had just like always, you know, that we seem to respond best to a crisis and so we feel like, you know, with the emerging of

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the clan, you know, that people are looking back and really taking a look at history and really seeing just how far how we come. And I think some of them saying that will come as far as we set out to come, you know, this wouldn't be

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happening. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Okay. Here what? Mhm. No, when you're finished. Yeah. How are you? Yeah. All right. There's

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the Children that made it hard Manuela and falcon in the kitchen, doesn't that right? I'm sorry. Right. Hi guys, that's stop the camera. Just get out of here. But I there's only one almost did something really cool. Yeah. Word is they are angry. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

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That's it one. Right. Mhm. Yes. All right. Well, yeah. Goodbye. You're awesome. Right. Thanks a lot. Yeah. And that was never the plan. No. What? But mhm. What happened? Mhm. Right. Yeah. What?

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Get it. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah. Get over here. Right. Don't pull on. I told him. Mhm. Thank you. Mm hmm, mm hmm. Yeah. Mhm. Okay. You know what? No, I think Oh, she's out there. Feel that

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guy in the blue shirt standing there. She's standing next to him. Yeah. George. Yeah. There's a black girl that. How are you? Yeah. Well, very much this is gonna be on. Right. Yeah. Okay. What? Mhm. No, thank you. Mhm. Mm hmm, mm

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hmm, mm hmm, mm hmm, mm hmm. Mhm. Okay. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Anything on that. Mm hmm. Really? No. Yeah. Mm hmm, mm hmm. Do they? Yeah, I'm bored. You can't leak in the least. Didn't believe

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it. Okay. Great. Three. Sure. Okay. Well, that's 15. The police. Yeah. That's why I'm waiting for that. Yes. Good. Right. Water. Mm hmm. It's really interesting. What the big All right. The third stage anyway. I

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don't know. You learn a lot. They're not listening to the press or the people that we have voted overwhelmingly in this state a number of times to get the death penalty to stop Manson types from running around our country. Um, they're not listening. We've got to

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get them out of office. There is no recourse for this nation or this state in particular because if they're allowed to stay in office, this, this state is now we need to throw the trash out of sacramento and get a whole new group there. And in

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my opinion, mike curb should be our next governor in California. If I'm going to promote somebody that and now mike's gonna be forced into a position like President Reagan. Now I've got a dean who belongs to the black panthers allegedly And he's stifling the free speech

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that he raised so much hell about in 1960. So the thing is the Klan is off and moving and we're growing and I want to thank everyone except for going down to the welfare office and getting everything and they talk about black culture. Well, it wasn't

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for the american people bringing those people over here, their own people sold them off, they still be over in africa with their G strings on catching carp with their sticks when their lips and things. Well, you know, everybody's got equal rights. But when it comes to

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white people, all we want to have is a little music here and if there's been a bunch of, I don't usually say this, but *** or mexicans, they will let them have it