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the buffalo rew Rew err aereo Whoa! Can you any label? Hey, Larry Fun batty Wasow ive already, buddy. Whoa, yeah Whoa! Yeah Cuello Rojo e or me lately Oh, hello. My name is Maya Angelo. Out of a bases of illiteracy Through labyrinths of lies Across wastelands

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of disease we advance out of dead ends of poverty Through wildernesses of superstitions Across barricades of Jim Crowism We advance with the peoples of the world we advance. That's the last of a poem by Melvin B. Tolson and it it suggests to us that we advance

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not in spite of but because of difficulties that are inherent in our very position in our social economic life. In this program, I shall discuss education how to avoid useless or inapplicable education for the black youth in the ghetto. For the most part, the white middle

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class values of punctuality Curtis courtesy in the classroom Neatness good grades are are invalid for him. He refuses. He rejects, uh, an attempt or the offer to to push his way into a society which rejects him at at the outset. So what we see here is

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a reaction to an action now for black youth. Usually those who persevere go into universities, come out with their B A s in liberal arts. And to me, that's a classic waste of time. I'm sure this is a controversial subject. I'm sure there will be some

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disagreement, but I welcome that. A white man with a B A in liberal arts is in an untenable position. How much more, black man, if he knows that he does not have either the financial, our character wherewithal to to push through and get an m A

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in a specialized field. Then I think it is better to to remove oneself from, uh, from a system or from a school system where the education might in fact at best, be useless and at worst, be injurious. There is There is such a thing. You know,

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there are black men and women around the country now who are breaking new grounds who are opening new avenues in business. In learning in, in, in coping with a capitalistic system, we went to visit Arabesque Oh, Air and Met and Mr Ralf Bradley there, who has

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an air tour, air freight, air cargo, air passenger service. We were very inspired by what we saw. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, Just just just mhm. Okay. Mhm.

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Mhm. Hello. Good morning. After morning. How? Each morning. Fine, thank you. We've just seen one of your planes go out. Did you feel proud? We're very proud of that aircraft. I'm very proud to, I think mostly all black Americans to see this will be very proud

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to tell me this. Ralph, how did you set up the company? Arab Esca. Well, originally, we started out by trying to get jobs with other outfits, and we found out they wouldn't hire us, so we started our own. Well, that sounds very simple. You started your

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own What? How did you start your Well, We've got a group of five gentlemen together, and we started forming a corporation and we went out and we put our money together and we bought an airplane. All black men, all black men. I'm proud of you. Rather

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how did you learn to fly? I started while the original group of us got together and we bought an aircraft and we decided that you don't even have an aircraft that you can't use, so we learn to fly it We hired an instructor, and we all

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took lessons. And out of the group that originally started, I think all but to learn to fly. Well, tell me what kind of, uh, not static. But what kind of interesting experiences do you have here at the airport or at any airport? When the people see

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the pilots of life first, it sort of stops things and stop and stare. You don't know what to make of it at first. And then they look for somebody else to get out. It was flying it. Oh, that's the first thing I see. Uh, excuse me.

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Other than that, the only static we've had is trying to borrow money. I don't think that we are businessmen enough to borrow money or to loan us money on aircraft. But you are making the business work. Yes, we are. You have air tours and air cargo.

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We have air tours. We have a cargo and passengers. We even fly skydivers. Really? Yes, we do Well for fun. I mean, they pay good way, they pay to jump, they pay so much per jump. Now you don't jump with them. I have back trouble. And

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that happened to be a yellow streak about a foot wide? No, I got it. Now tell me this. What kind of education do you have? I have 3.5 years of college. Uh, what was your major? My major was electronics. And then, prior to that, I was

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political science and American history. American history. You didn't find anything in there that would inspire you? Wouldn't know. I didn't. I found more in political science and, in fact, that I loved. I loved political science. Where can you fly? Were certificated now to go anywhere in

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the United States, Alaska or Canada. Well, I'm very proud of you, and so are the view, as I'm sure. Well, we're very proud of our organization and a lot of the end of our families who helped push us. Yes, of course. Without them, we wouldn't be

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where we are. Of course. Thank you so much. Thank you. Very. And I'm going up in arabesque to very good. And anybody else who wants to go Well, welcome. Anybody Thank you. Right now. Thank you. Isn't that an inspiring side? I I feel like I I

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want to just well, zap up in a plane or start a new business or something that's going to not only help me but help my people. I want to clarify my position now. I don't suggest that black students get out of school. Jump out of school.

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I just asked you two. Look at what kind of schooling the child is getting. And is it going to be able to help him make a living, marry a woman, raise a family, hold his head up as a man? This is most important. Our people understand

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that it's not a subject we have to dwell on here. There's a statement that was made by Ronald Rusev, associate professor at the University of Seattle. This is his quote. There is a noticeable departure from objectivity and marked biased manifested in certain modern textbooks, including the

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work of modern authors. A most serious weakness along these lines has to do with the observation that most traditional school materials are written as if they are to be used by white, middle class Children only. This circumstance is illustrated by an incident related by a Negro

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teacher at a parent parent, teachers meeting her child when he received his first reader brought it home to his mother and said, Mother, where am I? In this book? He had looked at all the pictures and couldn't find a single one with which to identify. Now

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we know that story. There is also a story, a true story that a teacher asked her class to to draw a fairy and two paint the fairy flesh color well. The only black child in this in the classroom painted the ferry dark brown, and the teacher

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was aghast. The teacher said to the child. But Mary, I told you, flesh color Now that tells us something about the kind of education that is available to our Children if they have, hopefully a family situation where they can be re re re educated. Well, that's

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all right then. But if the child just goes along and gets bad counseling, then he's liable to come out either drop out of school and not know why he has dropped out or continue and get a B A in medieval heartsick card. And what can he

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do with that? Counseling, Uh, is is a very, very important area of a child's education of a young person's education. Most councillors. White counselors, however, who do counsel our Children on higher education. Educational goals have little or no understanding of the black community of of the

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the truth of that black child's world. I would suggest that a counselor realized there are three areas in which, uh, guidance, the functions of guidance can be seen and one is in the adjusted area. One is in the distributive area and the other is in the

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adoptive or adaptive area, the area in which the counselor includes an understanding of of that child's world that child's needs that child's lacks that child sacrifices that parent, those Anguishes that that make the child react in the school room as he does. Uh huh. It's it

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would be important. I think it would be helpful if the counselor read the works of Lorraine Hansberry, uh, James Baldwin, Langston Hughes, Rosa Di um, Richard Wright. Certainly there are books that are available in every library, and if a counselor finds herself working in a black

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area, a non black counselor, then she should. Or he should avail himself of these texts so he can get a kind of, uh, almost physical understanding of what that child's life is like. Now there are some men in San Francisco, Dr Lucas and an Everett Brandon

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who have set up an organization. Ah, they help small businessmen. Black businessmen get a footing. They write up their proposals, take them to the banks and try to affect loans for them. Give them encouragement right down the line. We went to pack the other day and

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talk to Mr Everett. Brandon, who is the executive director of P A. C T. I was very turned on by it, Mr Brandon. Tell me, how did pack to get started? Well, it all started about five years ago when I was a stockbroker and Dr Lucas

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was a dentist and we used to get together. Lucas was a small investor, so we used to get together all the time and talked about the whole investment area and the kinds of things that were going on in downtown San Francisco. And Dr Lucas became more

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interested and I took time off, and we should take winds as off all day and just walk around markets Montgomery Street and go up and down buildings and see the fantastic complex of the whole financial world. that you never became exposed to, became very excited about

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it and said, Now, why aren't more black people in here and why aren't there more people learning all of this tremendous information that really makes readers the center of this whole economy read the world world decisions being made on what really is really where the community,

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its shape and the decisions to be made here. So we said that we got to get in here in some way. We've got to find a way to get in. Dr. Lucas then decided to take Wednesdays off from his practice, and we suspend all Wednesdays just

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roaming up and down with German Street. We then decided then, but what we've gotta do the ways that we got to approach this, we gotta get We can't do it all by ourselves and we don't want to do it all by ourselves. And one of the

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commitments that we have impact is really to to not so much as to develop things, to bring down the level of people, but bring people up to the level of what's there and what's available. And so we decided that we're gonna get black people involved a

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top level positions in the financial industry in the business community because that's where the brain center is. That's where things begin to formulate. We went to the office room in this building, the Balboa building, and we brought down his card tables in his chair. We put

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in the telephone and we open up an office and we call it the Pack Placement office. And from that we started. We used to walk down Market Street and my grandma Street used to hand out cards, saying to people, If you are interested in a job,

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a better job, come down and see us and from that pack group stand for At that time, we used to call a plan of action for challenging times. We call a pack now because I got to be a mouthful to say. But starting with that, no

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staff and $100 we have since become a pretty large organization. We are about $500 budget. Now we have about a 20 staff people and we're doing things in a business area in the placement area and in the education area. Can you tell me one particular one

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specific case in which you help someone you were telling me about Jamaica Tours. I think this is a very good example. He just happens to be a guy that's still in the whole gamut of what we started out to do it. He's a guy to be

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placed with one of the airlines Early three years ago, he rose to be a supervisor at the airline company, and he was, I think, the highest black person at the San Francisco airport. But he then decided after this exposure that he, because of his talents and

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a good recognition, it was a good opportunity for him to recognize that he had tremendous talents, that, uh, he never knew before. And now that he had his exposure, which we knew what happened. Once the guy gets exposure, once he sees a new horizon and it

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begins to recognize talents that he never had a chance to apply before. So this guy decides, Well, I'm going to open up my own business, and I'm going to go into a travel agency and I'm gonna run towards the Jamaica. So he came in to us

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and he says, Listen, I want to quit my job and I want to go ahead and start this company. So we said, Well, you know what you're doing. You're quitting a good job. And you you really haven't ran these stores before. And he won. He had

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very ambitious plans. Were able then to sit down and recognize that he was serious. People sit down with him, uh, put together in proper package. Take him over to the bank, negotiate alone for him, and now he is about to take his first tour to Jamaica

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in August 25th. Oh, that's really exciting. I know that this would be, uh, inspiring. Will you tell me, please, What you say you have a three pronged program. The business program is the one I'm just reflecting on. And that is to help guys to get into

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business. We help them to identify the areas of business opportunities. We help them to put their loan packages together. We then take them to the banks and to the Small Business Administration and try to get them loans were now in the process, developing our own banks

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so that we can make our loans directly from our own office. So we're not trying to raise money. And I think in the next two or three months we should have a major loan sources right within our office. And, uh, we've helped, I think, several 100

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businessmen in the past two or three years. I think we have a very good record in that regard. The third approach, then, besides the placement and then the business assistance is the education program, and this is a program is funded by the Health Education Welfare Department,

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and what we do is we identify students at the high school level who probably would not qualify for college and once we identified, and we then try to make sure they get all the counseling assistance possible and we work with their counselor, or we help to

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get additional counselors from the college levels to work with these kids. And once the kid has been so identified, we can down there guarantee him and entry into some college, it might not be the cause of his choice. That might not be Cal Berkeley, or it

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might not be San Francisco State. We can get them to colleges maybe, like Chico State or University of the Pacific or Sacramento State. Good schools, right, right, Good opportunities. We can not only get them into college, but we can also get them financial assistance while they're

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in college and we get them. We also get them a guarantee tutorial services while they're at least their first two years in school, and that program has worked quite successful. We've been doing it for a year now. We're not going into the second year of that

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program. I understand that some students that you help our, in fact, much older than, say, high school students were not limited to high school students, and we are the opportunities available. We have the Office of Berkeley in a court of shellac and looseness called Impact Education

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Clearinghouse that we now have when it's operating out of the Western edition of Poverty Office and McAllister Street. But we, uh, of course sisters are ready Target Group High school kids, but we're not. We placed at San Francisco State College of a woman 38 years old

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who is just starting all over again, so it's not limited to high school students at all, so anybody can take advantage of this program. Now, Mr Brandon has just told you about this? Told you the thrilling story about a man who left airlines and has set

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up a tour. Travel, uh, operation. And this is Mr John Tread Girl here. This is the very man. Now, tell me, Mr Plenty of would you say you could have done this without the help of packed? Well, I doubt that I could have gotten off to

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the struggle. I did without their help. No. They've been able to assist me in many areas so far. Publicity introductions to other individuals who might be interested in the tours through the financial from the financial standpoint connections, contacts with the right people, something of which obviously

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I could have done in this area have been most helpful. Well, when they set about planning your your whole project, that is to say, helping you to make more realistic. Uh, adjustment adjustment was can you say at any time, uh, you were You felt they were

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being a little pussy or did they feel like brothers to You know, I I felt that this was brother type thing. If you wish to use that term mhm they big brother, guidance to speak. It would be the best a term to use. This is certainly

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the way I accepted it. Now your tour leaves here August 24 August 24th, right? The first one it's going to be for 10 days. 10 days? Well, this it's really it's been planned rather early. It's It's going to include round trip air transportation in Dryland tours.

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Uhh, mules and and the little clips, right? Oh, yes, definitely. Thank you very much. By not buying how wonderful it would be if black Americans around the States would be inspired by those examples and set out to really include a large group of now underemployed or

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unemployed black Americans, uh, in their in their plans. When, a few minutes ago, when I suggested there were books that a counselor might read, I should also include that black Americans might agree. At the end of this series, I intend to give a list of bibliography

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our belts far the intermediate advanced, semiliterate, literally brilliant and not so brilliant to read that we intend to make some suggestions. But in that former group that I've just listed, I should like to include Leroy Jones. His poetry and his place touch the very very core

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of the black American life. And, uh, I think it would help a counselor, especially a white counselor, in understanding what's at stake here. What's really operating here Now, there are many ways to make a living. Many that are creative, some that are just profitable and some

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that are interesting. Mr. Zach Thompson has a dance studio. Mr. Thompson is, I'm sure, one of the most creative, uh, choreographers on the West Coast and maybe anywhere He has a school, a studio, and he's also a manager. This is my friend Zach Thompson. Hi. Fine.

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Tell us in about 3000 words, how did the how did you Why did you decide to start managing as well as dancing? Well, I found that this was a very exciting company. And since I know the problems of dance companies so well, the one thing that

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must keep a company going is performances. And since I know so many people and knowing that, uh, to keep this company going and to keep them inspired keep them working is by me managing because to try and get them from the ground up. That's the pushing

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of the company. Do you have. I mean, I I think you have other offers. I mean, there have been offers from people who wanted to manage the company and your company as well. And you refuse, right? Well, some in some cases, we accepted, but they didn't

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want to really push and put the work and effort into it. And so we thought we were just combine forces and, you know, just get the company going entire people to work with them and so that they could someday be a great company from America. Wonderful.

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Now tell me, do you draw your your dancers out of your studio out of this school? Or how do you? Yes, we have auditions, and we draw them out of school. And we're planning to have another company. Also, because we have just been established as a

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nonprofit corporation. Very good. That reminds me that a number of of entertainers, black American entertainers, singers and so forth are incorporating. Uh, the Ray Charles Enterprises is a case in point. I believe the, uh, late Sam Cooke had his own, uh, management and corporation, uh, business

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corporation together. Uh, I think Lou Rawls has the same situation. Uh, these are other businesses. Tell me, Zach, Uh, is it possible for us to see your dance troupe? I mean, the Danny Duncan danced through? Yes, it's very possible they're going to perform for you. Uh,

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Kalinda, the Duncan company of dancers and musicians. Glenda. Glenda, Glenda Club. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's exciting. It's all I could do to keep from jumping up there and dancing to three steps. I know. Zach Thompson is very,

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very proud of that group. I certainly am. And I know you are the the excitement they're able to engender in a small area. I just wonder what would happen if one got a chance to see them in a large, large dance floor. Mm. I might get

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up and dance, then in the studio this evening. We have a group of friends, and we're going to talk about business about business, education and about education. Uh, the five of us will talk, And why don't you just look in Good evening, lady and gentlemen, thank

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you for coming into the studio first. This is Mr Ralph Bradley on my right, whom you met in the at the Arabesque. Oh, Air. And that's Mrs Josephine Richardson. who is a lady who opened and built a tourists? A service rather an escort service from $7000

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a year to $80,000 a year. Next, we have Mr Lee Dimas, who is a big wheel in the automotive industry. A little wheel well, little wheel that makes a big, big sound. And, uh, then we have Mr Zach Thompson, whose dancers whose group you've just met

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thank you again for coming into the studio first raft explained to me, How did you, uh, how did you get the business going? I mean, what what what obstacles did you overcome? That's really what I want to know. Quite a few and one of them we

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still haven't overcome. And that's finances. As everybody has the same problem, I understand. Uh, and our problem is nobody wants to loan a black air service money, so we have to do this all on our own. All our equipment has to be financed by ourselves. Good

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grief. You mean you can't go to the bank and get along well, We've been in the bank and we've got a variety of excuses. They don't hold water, but they don't hold dollars But you persevere. Yes, we are. We're going to stay in this business or

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high water. You. I will. I know it'll be Heck now Tell me, Mrs Peterson, I know what you've done with your business with your last business. What? What education do you have? High school. High school only? Yes. And you were telling me earlier that your your

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mother had a statement? She said, there's no such. There's no such thing as you can't you put can't under your foot and stomp it to death and keep on keeping on. That's that's right. Right about right now. Tell me, Mr Demons, you were talking earlier about

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the the disparity between the black workers, the semi skilled workers. Would you Would you talk about that a minute? What do you want to start? Well, let's see. You were saying that in the South, uh, there was one system that was operating, and while in the

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North there's another system, but it's all the same thing. The disparity is this that in the South, semi skilled jobs are supposed to be to be need the dignity of a white man, so he doesn't apply for those jobs. So you see truck drivers, heavy equipment

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operators and, in the former years, engineers on the railroads farming in the north and in the West, where leaving well, good paying jobs, only white. And even today you drive down the roads of California. You see this black man, the ditch with the shovel, very seldom

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on any equipment, good paying jobs, even your trades. Same thing is true. And yet it's a legendary. The things that a black man can do that he has picked up from observation. That's true, but no chance to learn. That's true. No tutoring, nothing. That's true. Well,

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um, when, uh when a black man has a job with with a shovel or hoe and some dirt, that is to tell him it's in fact to tell him that he can't operate anything more more mechanical than a Jack in the box. Well, we know better.

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We'll come back to that. Tell me Zach Thompson you want, and we're hoping to to have support from the black community. Is that right? Right. Right. When you talk about that a little bit, please, about the social organizations and so forth. Right? Well, we have formed

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Um uh the Artist Roundtable, which is the black cultural center. We use two names because it's going to be a black cultural center. And we would like to support of as many black people, our own people, because we find more and more each day that many

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of the younger Children want to work and want to study with us. And so this is why we formed this organization so we can get qualified teachers for them who are black and to have a place for this young kids and for the teenagers to work

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and study and to find out what they want to do and having an organization to be able to turn to. So this is why we have formed the organization. Tell me what? What kinds of dance do you teach at the studio? Well, at the studio, we

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teach all forms of dance modern jazz, primitive African, Haitian, but in the cultural ballet also. But in the cultural center that will not only be danced but will be drama music. Um, you know everything, is it Is it possible? I mean, would you suggest, say, to

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any viewer who's watching black dancer who, maybe, uh, trying to think of how he's going to get into a business. Is it possible to get backing from the black community? Yes, I think there is. I don't mean just support. I don't mean just people hiring the

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Danny Danny Duncan dance troupe or the Zach Thompson dance troupe. I mean backing. Uh, you know, uh, say a man who could a person who could go to Mr Bradley, Mrs Richardson and Mr Dimas and say we need $5000. Uh, can you get it together for

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us? We want to open a studio. What's the chances of that? But what do you think? I think, uh, now we have very good chances because there are so many successful black businesses. And, uh, if they would see our plan and see that we have it

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all down on paper and it's all legal and it's not one of these organizations again, that is just going to This is why we formed the organization to because so much money has been given by so many kinds of people for this kind of project. And

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the money just always disappears. And I see it every day in youth programs that I'm teaching in whether the kids needed so badly, you know? So I really feel that we will get the support of our own people. Well, you see what we have to do.

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And I think this is so certainly for Ralph and for any project you might have in mind, uh, from Mr Bradley rather than any project you might have in mind. Mr. Richardson, our people do not have a history of being angels. This is important to know.

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We have simply never had enough money to talk about speculating with our money. The money was so necessary for the for the bills just this month that people just have not been able to. I mean, there's no precedent set. So one of the things we should

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talk about even now, is how to encourage the black community who maybe do have five or 6000 or $10,000 in the bank. That's just really accruing four or 5% interest how to to to talk with them and encourage them to risk maybe 1000 on and get

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back 10% interest. You see, this is very important. This is again that same unity that I'm personally striving for at any cost. Well, one thing if they would support, just support the different businesses that are different people have and utilize them and they can have a

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lot of band they can benefit by it. Also, like with us, were certificated to go anywhere in the United States, Alaska, Canada and we can take up to eight people in one aircraft, four and the other, plus their baggage and six in the other. And we're

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operating these and are ready to go at all times. We have 24 hour service and this is all we're giving as a service. And we would love to see our people, especially our youth, get interested in this because this is a field that is opening up

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fast for our youth. Like in our business, We as adults may not really see it get to a point where it's going to be a million dollar business, but our Children, it will help them. They will. This is a business that we're really setting up for

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the future, and it's for our Children, and we feel that whatever we do will help other Children, just like in the picture that we saw there. We have Children. We take on different ships with us. In other words, if we go without a full load rather

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than go empty and we have the room who would like to take underprivileged Children are Children couldn't afford to make these different trips so they can see that there is something else for them. And all this costs money. But we're one day somebody's gonna come along

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and loan this money for our equipment. I'm sure of that. Very certain of it. I think that, you know, uh, we mustn't just because, uh, we are ourselves black. And because we so understand the position and the condition, the situation of the blacks at no time

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must we let ourselves off the hook. I really think this is an important I think that we should then not go to the white businessman. You know, we there's no no. People in the world have finished so many people Ph. D. S and million dollars as

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the black people. So why don't we do our best to encourage that that blacks community, Mr Demons, there is a key element here that you're missing. All right, I think. Okay. Why the black rivers. Man can't compete because he can't get the money. Now you cannot

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divorce your economy with everything else. Ah, the ability to get money to operate, to compete, to buy on a volume basis, or divide the equipment to compete with the white man. You got to go to the white man now. And the banks and the white man's

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banks. It's a black man's money if he has any and the white man learns the money gets interest. But the black men try to get something to make some money. So he got you sold in. Okay, But tell me this, Mr Demons, why do we have

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to compete with him? Mind you, what I'm trying to get to here is is a unity at at all costs at any cost, no matter what it costs us. And in that way I may be sounding like an isolationist. It's not my intention I am concerned

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with with starting at home. I'm not really concerned at this point in my own thinking with the white man. I really am not. I understand that he is there and that, you know, he has worked to get there. We are here and we have suffered to

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get here. That's the difference now. But now that we are here, if we don't think, in fact, of competing, if we think rather of supporting, of getting ourselves closer and closer and closer and leave him Ghana and say left him small, you know, leave him a

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little while and let's just work inside our community. Now I know that in volume, certainly the black businessman simply cannot afford to come up to you and say, Mrs Richardson, for your project, I see myself clear to let you have 35,000. We just don't have that

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many black men. And to get the contact, I mean black men with that kind of money to speculate. But it is possible to get 10 or 20 black people with with $500 apiece. You see, I'm very much impressed by, uh, Father Divine by Profit Jones by

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Daddy Grace. These men took dimes, dimes, and built million multimillion dollar empires and did some good for the community. I don't know how many of you remember Father Divine's restaurants, uh, where the most popular places and the cheapest and the cleanest one could go into a

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father Divine restaurant. Say, peace, sister. It's wonderful. And sit down to a seven course meal for 35 cents. Is that correct? This was not only in California, this was in New York, in Oakland, California. I mean, uh, small cities as well as large cities and this

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man, then he taught a kind of self respect. He also finished food and housing. So it is possible it is possible to think large, but in a small context, you know? Well, I just like to say that we were not successful because it was idea or

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desire to compete. Uh, we started out with this business. Of course. My husband started first, uh, as more or less as a hobby, and we saw the potential. At least I thought I think, and became very, very interested in seeing the business expand. I don't think

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he realized just how possible it was and on my desire to see the business grow. I encouraged him to leave the job that he had, which was a special delivery messengers, the post office, and I felt the only way that you're going to be able to

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make this business grow and means something to the community and yourself is by getting away from the small job that keeps you tied in and put all your interests into this little hobby that you have. So with the desire of, uh, creating a service that would

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be available to the common people as well as to leave the rest of the people, then we just geared it right into a successful directional business. That's I think that's, uh, that's the key, uh, many problems facing us, as we all know these days. I thank

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you for Zach Thompson, not only for uh, for bringing the Danny Duncan true, but also for being on the on the program. I thank you. Leading us, thank you very much. Just Richardson and I Thank you, Ralph Bradley. My pleasure. Uh, mind certainly. I, uh I

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think that it would behoove the black community to have as many of these little sit down and talk fests with each other as as as there's time as time affords them. Uh, I I encourage it personally. I know that Justin sitting here in the studio, talking

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with these four people, I've learned something, I wonder Could Is it possible for us to, uh, to go back to the dance group and and have them just sing us right out. Yes, they are all set to perform for you merengue this time. Marina. Wonderful. Thanks.

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Oh, yeah. Go now. That's fine. That's a nice way I would imagine. That's a nice way to make a living. Mr. Frank Marshall Davis wrote a poem that says Giles, It's called Child Johnson. Ph. D. Giles Johnson

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had four college degrees. Knew the why four of this and the where four of their could or rate in Latin all cuss in Greek. And having learned such things, he died of starvation because he wouldn't teach and he couldn't poet her. Pity. Pity how to avoid

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an inapplicable or useless education is a serious matter that we should be giving concentrated attention to how to encourage our young people to follow lines that they are interested in and break new ground. Open new avenues go all the way out there. The stars beyond the

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stars, anything the mind can think. Let's encourage our youngsters to do to think that those things remember that having an education and not being able to apply it is the same as having no education at all. Or maybe worse. Thank you before Ooh, err aereo Oh,

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