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We haven't processed yet. That's why you take it over there. I have no idea. I have no idea. Well, no, no, it's been there for some time. We're trying to pin the time down a little closer. Most recently, we figured that they left the chowchilla area

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somewhere. They took the bus somewhere around four and it was about one or 1 30 when they arrived up here, which brings it clear down, you know, maybe like eight hours or nine hours. They did a lot of driving around but they couldn't see out of

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the van. So they had no idea in what area they were cruising. They made several stops. They had no idea why the stops were made with stop lights. Stop signs, but the bus drivers indicated that there were numerous stops, but none for any prolonged period. Sheriff

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said that they did have one hard fact to go on. There were two vehicles involved, both of them being vans possibly dodges, one white, one dark or black at this time. That's about all the information we can give you. The investigation will continue with the Alameda

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County Sheriff's Department, Madera County and the FBI. I'm Sheriff Tom Hawkins this evening, about 8:15 p.m. We received a call from an employee of the cal rock quarry out on Isabel by where we are right at the moment today, the farm roads crossed the valley in

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a square grid avenues running east and west roads north and south. The last legitimate stop was to let off seven year old Sandy Zylstra who seemed not to understand that what had happened later was not part of some game. They found the bus, but there's no

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people, not even our bus driver, not even Edward. He's our bus driver like Edward. Yeah, he's our best, best driver. Had you ever seen any cars following the bus before? No. Do you have any idea who might have done that? Did you see anything after the

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bus let you off, nope. You just came home? Yeah. And where did you last see the bus last? Anything good that way? Okay, people come home indication. Yeah. 50 hours without any rest. Mr Ray. I traveled down 18th Avenue 18.5 left off two stops. Then I

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traveled down the road, 16 left off another stop and then come back on avenue 21. There was a white van parked down the road with the door open and I slowed up there because it's over the white line. I slowed up to go around him jump

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a man with two guns with a master on, he ordered me to open my door. The other two guys jumped out of the van and one ordered me to the back seat and the other one took over my bus. We continued on down the road for

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about mile. Then he turned into the slough bottom into the to leave there with my bus with all the kids on it. The white van pulled up by my door, backed up, We loaded about half of the kids in the white van. Then they pulled the

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black one, we loaded the rest of them up and I was in the back of a black van, so we was in a dark spot in that van, just solid black, dark in there and he got stuck. I thought he wasn't going to get out. I

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thought maybe somebody find us before he got out there, but he got out and we traveled and traveled and traveled, but I didn't know where we went. Then we got that played up part way and then they had another Big box built all around that about

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30 in high. They had dirt pile all on each side and on the top and we couldn't even start to move it, but just lucky we had a short block of wood in the clean there they had for a breeze, I'd say about 18" long. We

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used it for prize and busted boards and try to shake the board where we get the dirt to fall down and come down through our into our bunks there. We just took time got the water out. I mean the dirt out, come down and pour water

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over our heads and everything else to try to cool off and go back up and dig some more. So I'd say about seven a little About 7:00, we got dug out, we handed all the kids up, I handed the kids up to the other boys and

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we got out just lucky enough There was a gravel pit right just within 200 ft of us. And the man over there so jumped him, told him what happened. This is the new command post command post number two, the new headquarters for the statewide search for

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the three male kidnappers still at large of the 26 chowchilla Children. And this is as close as we could get to its nerve center. The commanding officer, lieutenant Deputy Levitt said there'll be no pictures inside the jail perimeter today. In addition to everything else that happens

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to be visitor's day at santa rita, officials expect 800 people to come and visit the 1400 prisoners as we were told we've got 1400 prisoners to deal with here. Plus all this other stuff, the latest that we've got or that the Sheriff's department is doing at

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this time. The crime technicians are at the scene in the gravel pits. They are working on securing evidence from inside the van when they're finished with that we hope to get the van out from underground and get it identified, find out what it is where the

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van was from originally. Are there any new leads at all? Nothing at this time. But at a later time Cbs got their cameras inside the gates and talked to Chief Ball. We have several latent fingerprint lifts from the

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crime scene that uh the cal rock quarry, those fingerprints and the elimination prints of the victims will all be sent to sacramento Department of Justice for uh comparison and evaluation and possible identification. What I've got solid

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wood site a lot of we were looking for man just a life as you all know we are in the process of extricating the what we believe is a van from the hole at the pit. No press is allowed at that site at this time. We

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have this morning have a geologist on the site to tell us how long that van has been there and the texture of the soil in which it is buried in the numbers on the doors and the license numbers. No, it is not. We have determined that

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three vehicles were bought by a person in the Greater Metropolitan SAn Francisco Bay area On November the 24th 1975 that one of those vehicles was registered On July 13, 1976 in the San Jose area. We know that all of the information on the registration is false.

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The address. We're not limiting the scope of our investigation just to you know, routine run of the mill if you can call it that kidnapping cases, we're looking at it from a point that we have a major crime that has to be solved. We're trying to

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find the responsible, we are not ruling out anything. We're not limiting our scope by that. I mean we have not will not at this point limited to radical groups as I referred to. We have no reason to believe that the radical groups are involved. We don't

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know what the reason is now that she's had a chance to think about it. She saw a couple of suspicious people. What she considered to be suspicious people hanging around, watching the Children. And what brought this primarily to her attention

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was the fact that one of them was wearing a narrow brim straw hat and that he was a person who seemed out of place at this at this swimming place where there were young Children. Yeah, help my head is probably 6-13. Richard Schoenfeld remains in custody

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here in the Alameda County jail in Madeira. Sheriff Ed Bates says plans at the moment are to arrange schoenfeld on the charges against him next thursday morning in chowchilla in Oakland, Pat O'brien channel five, eyewitness news on monday his buddy fred Woods will also be brought

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here to the Alameda County jail following a court hearing in sacramento to drop federal charges against him of unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. That on Wednesday all three will be in chowchilla Richard for a bail reduction hearing. The other two for arraignment. There's still some question

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at this point whether all the suspects have been captured. Alameda County Sheriff Tom Hatch says he thinks they've got them all, but Madera County Sheriff Ed Bates says, although he believes the chief suspects have been caught. He does not exclude the possibility there might be others.

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In fact, reports are authorities are pursuing the possibility of four more suspects, including a woman who might have been involved in either the planning or the escape in Oakland. This is scotty tong channel five, Eyewitness news, Young Woods captured in Vancouver british Columbia last thursday appeared

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before us magistrate Esther mixed this morning as just a formality enabling the government to drop charges of illegal flight to avoid prosecution and clearing the way for him to face kidnap and robbery charges. Woods was turned over Immediately to Madera County sheriff ed bates who in

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turn transferred the prisoner to Alameda County authorities who already have custody of Richard and James Schoenfeld, the other two men accused of the July 15 kidnapping of a busload of school Children in chowchilla California. Meanwhile, authorities say a $5 million ransom note found in a search

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of the 100 acre Woods family estate and Portola Valley was signed with the name Bell Siba. In an apparent reference to the devil. Also found among hundreds Of pieces of evidence were documents police say contained strange occult style references to Satan and others coded in ancient

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Sanskrit recalling the messages of the notorious Zodiac killer of a few years ago. The writing was said to be in the hand of James Chau and fell the 24 year old oldest of the two brothers accused in the kidnapping. All the three suspects will appear in

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Chowchilla on Wednesday. Richard Sean fell to seek reduction in his million dollar bail and for a change of venue. And James Sean fell and Fred Woods to face arraignment on 32 counts of kidnapping and robbery. Madera County Sheriff Ed Bates says he is opposed to a

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change of venue. You don't believe with the defense attorneys that emotions are running too high there then. Well, I don't think they're running any higher there than they are anywhere else in the United States of the world. The mere fact that I'm here in sacramento surrounded

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by attorneys from san Francisco and everywhere else throughout the state. The feelings of the people are pretty much the same everywhere. That is that they expressed great concern about this. I think it transcends for example, racial issues, cultural issues, it transcends political issues. This is where

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the parents of the Children involved, parents, friends and neighbors of the Children who were victims of a kidnap. Well, they're also, I don't think any of the parents are going to sit on the, on the jury and I doubt very much if the defense counsel would

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allow any friends to sit on the, on the jury. That's the sort of things that you exclude the will be a week ago. What happened was, hey brian seems to me to illustrate. Judge

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Green was born in Fresno county and graduated from Baylor law school since his involvement in this case. He has been deluged with letters from old classmates and professors wishing him well despite his hectic schedule. He still has time for hobbies. I like to bowl. I like

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to play bridge. I play lousy game of golf. I love to hunt. I love to fish. My wife has a trout widow and a dear widow and a pheasant widow. And then when that's not on I square dance and round dance, you think it's possible for

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these defendants to get a fair trial in this community? Yes, I do. I've talked to a lot of the local people and when you ask them, do you want an innocent man convicted? They say no, we don't. We want to make sure that the person that

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is convicted as the one who really did it, but we want to see him punished and I don't think that there's anybody in this community that would want to have anybody convicted who was was innocent will ever be the same again. Oh yes, we'll be back.

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We'll be back. It's completely to normal within a little while, no scars, no scars. The California school employees association that represents school secretaries, janitors, gardeners in the like has complained for years that their members have stood in the shadows of the classroom teacher, the glamour job

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in education. So today spokesman for the group at its annual convention say they couldn't pass up the opportunity to bask in the international attention now being given one of their own hero. Bus driver Edward Ray, accompanied by his wife Ray, who calls himself just an ordinary

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bus driver nervously received the outstanding service award from his colleagues, given for his heroism in leading 26 chowchilla school Children to safety after being entombed in a livermore rock quarry. And the award was presented by no less than the governor of California himself. And each of

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us in our own way, whether we're a governor, a teacher, a bus driver, cafeteria worker. Most of our lives, we just go along and do what we're supposed to and not much has heard about it, but every now and then we're called upon to do something

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extraordinary and our system depends on ordinary people acting in an extraordinary way when called upon to do so. And that's exactly what Ed Ray has done. We all appreciate it and I hope we can all emulate it when we're called upon to do something similar. Thanks

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a lot. Okay, because we want to think something I'm proud to be here. We did got the Children back home. That's what I was worried about. Thank you. Thank you