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Okay, Senator Willis. What are you, congressman Willis? I mean, sorry, congressman Willis. Let's start again, Congressman Willis. What do you hope to prove as a result of these hearings? Were not seeking to prove anything what we're seeking by that. I mean, we're not seeking to prove

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that uh, this person is of one type or another. What we are here to do is to gather information as we are ordered to do by an act of Congress with respect to the general operation of the Communist conspiracy, wherever it may lead. Uh it's a

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mandate that law's been on the books for probably over 20 years. We receive our appropriations and are ordered every year to maintain this general surveillance of the Communist operations. With the view of amending improving correcting laws having to do with our internal security, the Internal Security

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Act of 1950 foreign agents registration, I have to smith act. Uh and so on. This is part and parcel of our general studies of the machinations of the Communist conspiracy hearings as far as they've gone this morning? Well, that's for all we've heard from only people

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with the Bureau of Customs who certainly have uh demonstrated uh that literally floods and kinds of material uh from the behind our curtain countries uh entering the United States contrary to the law. And that's part of our jurisdiction, is to uh if necessary, plug a loophole

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in that particular law, The Foreign Agents registration Act, Congressman. How do you feel about the demonstrators who are marching around City hall present. I haven't seen them thus far, but uh they really don't concern me, bother me or influence me in any way. This is a

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free country and demonstrate if they want to. But I'm attending to the business of congress. Have you run into this sort of thing elsewhere? Well, as I say, I haven't seen yet, judging by the morning paper, there's quite some organization being planned and if it proves

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to be that formidable, I would say definitely not. We've had some uh some resentment of course, but uh not as vulnerable as it tells me this is today. Do you anticipate interrogating what might be turned unfriendly witnesses as opposed to the gentleman who just left the

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stand that's left to the staff and the director. I don't know the, frankly the uh all the uh philosophies of the witnesses were likely to examine. I would say that following the usual pattern, uh, there will be a both varieties. And uh if that's true and

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if witnesses are named and then they'll have an opportunity to face their accusers and see what they've got to say. Thank you very much. Okay, you're a lot like leaves. Mhm. Uh huh. Uh huh. I am mrs barbara Harpal. I live at

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Evans Washington and I am a poultry raisers by occupation. I've never been. Yes, will you kindly the embrace extinct forms get it with the firing of your career in the Communist Party like Crisco for florida Uh, in the latter part of 1933 or early 1930 for

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that winter, I joined the Communist Party And I was a member of it until I broke with the Communist Party uh in the spring of 1953. During that time I was active in very many of the activities of the party And during the Atlanta eight years

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was a district official of the northwest District of the Communist Party with headquarters in Seattle. I was a member of the Northwest District Committee and Northwest District Board. The organizational secretary of the district for a time for several years and educational director of the district for

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several years. And for nine years Up until 1950, I was a paid full time functionary of the party. And uh for two years I was a partly subsidized underground member of the Communist Party. Yeah. Uh the Communist operation in this country at the present time, in

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my opinion, based on by the way, this material and other materials, is that the Communist movement is carrying on very serious activity. Is very enthusiastic about the games that it can make. And based on the contacts which it is able to make again, and the dukes,

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that it is able to get again in numbers. Is indeed again arising minutes in peril to our college menace and strength and force. It is a greater menace now than at any time in that life. I would like to share a part of the records. All

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have one of these please. Uh huh. I respectfully exacted a question on the same ground. Any question as my political beef police association statements deprived me of the right of free speech press assembly and petition the House un american activities Committee serves

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no real legislative or constitutional purpose. It punishes individuals and re okay. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. The meeting of a prior statement. Great idea. You're in college, you really put him on it punishes individuals and groups for their political ideas and associations through public exposure and condemnation. All

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right. And you are refusing the national basically played tennis in high school. I have wished I had a general to the question. Well, I don't believe you can be, it punishes individuals and groups for their political ideas and associations through public exposure and condemnation often resulting

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in economic sanction. I cannot cooperate with the committee in answering any such questions. I feel I have an obligation as a citizen of this country to reserve the constitution and I do not feel I can do so in good conscience by allowing allowing the House un

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american activities Committee to inquire into my beliefs or associations. Now, mr walker is the information. Will you find a firm of 49, I adopted a question on the previous ground. Are you now this includes a member of the Communist Party. Same objection. Will you charlie confuse

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the fact that his witness has drawn in vote. Mhm. Yeah, I decline to answer that question on the grounds previously stated. And I also respectfully refuse to answer that question on the constitutional grounds that I cannot be forced to bear witness against myself. Do you honestly

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apprehend by german are going to get anything to lose that interrogation? Wait, I could show you pack up and get out of you. Come on. Mhm. Yeah. Oh,

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hardly America America in a different part of a plan. They only reason. The only reason why uh people do, it's not broken is there is no room

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in America. Uh people put down over the side aisles and then the order me in no picture show or other public function of people allowing and decide on a without being always that is no longer a reason why this thing has been brought about. We were

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at the meeting this morning 15 years to be patient but finally decided now. Oh, this place will draw about about this. Only found out this morning My name is Merle Brodsky. I live at 39 15 Patterson Ave Oakland. I am a tile mason. Yeah, you're here

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today Mrs Bracke and responsible for leading with service on you by this committee. I uhh just a moment. Yes, I am during in response to a subpoena. Yes, I am represented by counsel. My name is George R. Anderson to 40 Montgomery attorney at law Mr Bronstein.

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We have his phone. We all realize that is correct and never used any name, name, girl doing the way you are period here today. Well, talk stand. Yeah, yeah, underground. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry but all I got there was a speech I'm not

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only would you give me a simple I'm sorry mr Chairman, may I ask you a question first? I am I'm not entitled to ask clarification. I didn't understand that that statement. Mr Chairman, that in light of the way the council placed is he has accused me

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of crimes. He has threatened me with all sorts of things that the only alternative I have is to utilize the First the First Amendment, my right and privilege of freedom of speech and press and privacy of it. Secondly, the 14th Amendment that this committee is constituted

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illegally because the chairman of this committee represents a district with over 300,000 voters and only 8000 voters vote in that district over 9000 and also on the ground. And especially in light of the way the the person here placed it on the grounds that I cannot

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be compelled to be a witness against myself another You've got me mixed up again. You're bringing in the whole world here. I can't understand what is what what was the answer to my question? Why are you trying to jeopardize my employment, my job. Would you please

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give me that? What is the currency of this question to the passing the laws of the United States. That's what I'd like to know. I'm not a big speech please. We don't want to go all the way. We'll take your party. These fissures foundation has been

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laid down. Well, what is the question again? Whether you repeat the second class? How long have you been employed? You been engaged in the present occupation or leaving the car? Mhm. Oh, I'm unemployed at the present time. What about your last friend 1? Well, again, I'd

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like to ask, I think this breakfast is abundantly clear. Oh, that would be here if it's clear. Why are you asking me? How are you? You know, an agent? But I will tell you to direct him, you know, to answer me? What is the purpose he

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what is he what is he trying to drive me out of the neighborhood? That's what I want to know. All right, well then what is that? Mhm. I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. Well, have you through explaining the question? Well, I'm sorry, I got lost again.

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Now, what was the question again? After that? As to address myself to the chair? It seems that the agent of this committee is pursuing on the line. The answers of which have become apparently obvious. He has accused me and make violent accusations. Therefore it is obvious

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that the only answer I can give to these types of questions, the only possible conceivable constitutional answer is first, my right a political privacy and freedom of speech and press secondly, my right enough to be compelled to be a witness against myself. I asked the jail

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to please instruct this man to stop this line of questioning. Now here that was not that there was a trade told you must leave this House and I remember it was imposed very expensive putting back to

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the user. These things have been taken. I want to know how this committee across that mind. I haven't demanded an answer to that. Can I ask the chairman? He has authority. Here you go. I want to know. Yeah, yeah. May I ask does this committee have

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income tax forms? What is this one I'm asking you, director? Yes. Yeah. Don't confuse. Yeah.