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Theo Creative Person has a special gift. His private vision of the world. Thea artist through words, images, music, ideas, touches our view of the 20th century very, very well. Now, in this one, when you begin 40 keep it

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for the old time. Don't let it down. Fine. Darius Meal can properly be described as France's greatest living composer for the creative output of astonishing vitality in a great variety of forms. Feels First visit to the United States was in 1922 at which time he was

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considerably influenced by American jazz. He returned to the United States in 1940 as a member of the music faculty of Mills College in Oakland, California Since 1947 he has divided his time between Mills College and Paris. I love to be here at meals because first of

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all, I always have, like youth and I mean contact of American You one year and the French one the other. But I like this accomplished. I like the birds. I like the flowers I like the climate on. As I teach on the in the morning, I

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am free to compose in the afternoon or in the evening on. It is a marvelous life for me because it's not as strenuous as is in Paris. In Paris, it's I could work as well as here, but in a more much more hectic kind off life,

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because we are interrupted constantly by telephone, people traveling who wants to see me? Interpreters, radio, television, radio of other countries who have on office in Paris, etcetera, etcetera. Uh, finally, it's much more tiring toe be disturbed all the time than not to be disturbed. But, you

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know, it's a little bit like a old car who is just keeping the battery quiet here and spending it in. In the spring of 1963 Mills College presented Emilio Festival in honor of the composer's 70th birthday. Maybe a former Meo student, jazz composer and pianist Dave

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Brubeck had this to say about his former teacher. Rio is 73. The last birthday I I think we were around was when he was 60. I can't believe it was 10 years ago, but for his birthday, students on campus decided that we'd all bring him a

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composition. And so, early in the morning, way arrived and outside of his window of the various students performed compositions that we had written. And that was 10 years ago, uh, at Mills College, standing outside his window that this his birthday party took place. Now, 10 years

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later Ah, I wish that we could all do the same thing again, but we're all scattered all over the world. One afternoon at the Meal Festival was titled The Young Americans and included a kind of outdoor concert involving Elektronik music listed on the program as environment

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and sound mobile that Oh yeah, yeah, going back Thank you probably has a basic plan of what she was doing misinterpreting into the music. You mean the guy interpreting and reacting, reacting to the music e. If she's good, I mean, technically

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ridiculous. You know, it was actually Muslim looking. These those are It's ridiculous for all their keep us, Theo afternoon evoked memories of the twenties when some musical and dramatic innovations actually provoked riots. But not this country in the twenties. The kind of music that we were

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doing was not accepted by universities because I think disregarded they didn't understand it. And now even the Elektronik experiment oh performed on accomplished like meal score is one on this part of the musical education. Now there is a certain love off conduct, but sometimes doesn't work

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because you have a sort of aggressive ITI in certain, uh, theatrical musical place or little operas, or in certain ballet dance, which try to provoke a scandal. And if it provokes it, it's where they love it. If it doesn't provoke it, well, you just tow, listen

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to the music without shouting, and we'll continue Centaur reinforced all. Oh, thank you. Don't be. Oh, really? Oh, the world premiere of a new Meo work, The sweet tea tree for seven instruments and speaking voice was presented during the festival. This work is

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composed in such a way as to allow the performers at certain points, a maximum of freedom. Sometimes this is called indeterminacy in music, or the more popular term is chance music for me. Oh, this was a restatement of an idea first explored in the early 19

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twenties. Well, that's a no story, because it's a problem that has a interests me for years and years, and the first experience I made 1920 uh, in a book called Almanac to Cope With the Cocaina, which was published in 20 or 21 they have been a

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lot off. It's a kind of recipe off cooking recipe made by idols and stories around this lovely out. And what could the music, music professional musician could do in a book like that? Then I wrote a piece that I called a cocktail for four. Karen, It's

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and Singer, and that's my first experience in the so called trance music. We didn't have this name, and this time I call them cadenza because I have four clocking notes who repeat a little phrase. But some of them have a longer phrase. It doesn't take the

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same time. It's always different way. Do you allow the performer to choose his own notes? Notes Not absolutely not a composer. Music. Some composers stress improvisation, Yes, but I am very much against improvisation because I love the former. But I don't trust him way. Even if

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you are the second note, you'll be alone took place. I'm all right. That happens sometimes. You know those skaters? No, no, no, no, no. That is just assigned toe weight that everybody has finished its little line. And as long as there is one way Yeah. Oh,

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me, for example, was that of a man getting up Usually, E. I hate to think of it, but it seemed like six in the morning, his lights would come on. I was living across the road from him for a while, and I think he started composing

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very, very early in the morning. And by the time his first classes, we're do he had probably written Mawr. Then all of the students put together. And then when we would go to visit him at his home, hey would carry on a very normal conversation, be

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aware of everything going on in the room, but still be composing. So this example of a man working and he used to tell his students he would say, You write music just like you eat and you sleep out of necessity. You right? Because you must remember

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Comptel about the future. Maybe one data from puzzle will just take a shit off paper and will not write a note on it and give it to an orchestra, but find way to make a centrally in five seconds. But I always felt that when a piece

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is half improvised, the moment when the written knows disappear. There is a sort off coming down off the interest, and the style fails. Now the state of Qatar. Since a long time, I want to make a new work from my wife, uh, toe read with music.

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Until now, we had on later contact the long for Lemaire, but I wanted to try something quite different. I think that transfer is equal the right channel for bad, because every instrument has a sort off departure point with certain words or certain syllables on what it

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worked. E. Theo Text for The Sweet Quadra consists of 18 poems by Francis John Meals Association with John, a French Catholic poet and novelist. Born in 18 68 goes back to 19 9 e. I have always loved the portrayal. France's job. Andi. I began toe work

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on his poetry, and I made a joke around that will be a Gary already in 19 9, it's a old, long love off this idea on. He was living in the Pyrenees, but doctors and then later in the Basque aspirant and I have seen several times

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to see him on board very often. When I want to choose the program. Hi. Thank you. Automatically. I come back to France. My I get a little I'm sorry. That's in your bank rules next month. Mr. Meal, One of the works on the festival program is

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your string Quartet number five, which is dedicated to Arnold Schoenberg. Do you have any comment to make in the fact that so many younger composers seemed to have been very strongly influenced by the 12 tone system? Yes. No. Well, it zisson influence that as all influences

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have come in the past. You know, there was a very pertinent, uh, mark that Sunbury did when I came back from Paris after having bean there the first time after the war that we're in 48 and being in Los Angeles, I always When I was, I

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was always go toe always went toe, see Schoenberg, who was a very old friend in which I admired very much. After my first trip in Paris, he asked me what other musicians doing there, and I said, Well, I suppose you must be very happy to know

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that there is a great quantity off the younger composers in France that has adopted your prison system. Then he smiled in a certain way and he said, Are are so And so they put music inside. Mr Me Oh, you also wrote the music for the Ballet

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Adam memoir, which is based on what I understand was a one page scenario by Jean Genie gave me. You would have just half a page off clean only half a page. Well, how did you approach the writing of the music? Well, I had the timing's off

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the choreograph, and I knew the character off the scenes off dances in every other ballet. I just had to to write it, following the pattern off the dramatic evolution off this scenario. Madam, you, how would you describe the dramatic evolution of the scenario? Well, strangely enough,

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it is rather difficult heaven, absolute, precise idea. I think about that valley. Jeannie has his very strong political ideas, which, perhaps for the audience, couldn't be quite clear on related toe the Renee off that time. But I think that one can find an interpretation which is

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very close from his ideas. It is a sailor who is lost in the fair in that Liberians I don't know how to pronounce that. It's about the same word as in French. And he finds another character. Is that his own shadow? Is it his soul? Is

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that himself that he finds for the first time? Is he found or is he lost? It is very difficult to say. I think there are many interpretations to a image of that sort. Becky Fuller did that extremely well on when death appears. That sailor has been

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lost and couldn't is prisoner off. This liberates. Death does conquer. But death does not conquer completely. As a part off that sailor is saved. Now that's up to you to decide what it is. That part lives after death. Now, I do not know how you know

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would like that interpretation. For me, it was most satisfactory. I wonder how meal would like the interpretation in relation to the music that he wrote. Oh, I think it was very close. Would you agree? Oh, yes, E. Otherwise I would have asked. Yeah, the highlight of

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the media festival was the composer conducting the world premiere of his new work for seven instruments and speaking voice sweet to quatre. Okay. Oh, the last thing you can make in a slum of yours you must Oh

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o b d o You agree? Your creepy little booth E o e Lepper t does. Sonny don't set their Shari e o. Okay.

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o Mm e on the shows He thought these leg with blue menace Another one. Um so does he mean it could be lost? Oh, bang coming through. Saw

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the cause. Ain't a damn todo e dealing display e e. Yeah. You know what? I think maybe you can get it. Yeah, for

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our community, they are not regular people. Yeah, I always thought I couldn't do nothing else. That from music I begin to write when I was 15 and Mr Continue a quotation from Jean Cocteau used as an epigraph for the meal Festival aptly describes meals, continuing freshness

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of attitudes in his life and work October road. And I say with Picasso, it takes a long time to become young instrumentalists in these excerpts from meows sweet to Katrina. Where. Nathan Ruben Violin, Ellen Straw. Shallow Nothing. They del Double Bass and Adams Park Jean Cunningham

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Flute. Donald Cobb Alto Saxophone. Morton Subotnick Bass Clarinet. This'll is N e t. The National Educational Television Network.