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Yeah, yeah. A small group of students turned out this morning here on the campus of Merritt College in Oakland in support of a youngster who has refused to go to Vietnam. His case is a little different because this youngster happened to have been in the army

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when he refused to board a plane. His name is Ron Lockman. He's 23 years old and comes from the North Philadelphia Ghetto. He is a negro. Today, we talked with his attorney, Terence Hallinan and asked Mr Halinen what is Mr Lockman status at this moment? Well,

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right now, Ron is at the presidio of san Francisco under arrest for refusing to obey the lawful orders of a superior officer. He comes to trial for his court martial on monday the 13th, at 8 30 at the san Francisco presidio, Mr Harold. And do you

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really feel that you have even an outside chance of winning this case? Well, of course any lawyer has to always go into a case thinking that there's a chance that he can win and there is a chance here that we can win? It's a far out

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one. Uh, but you don't know what happens. I feel if there's enough opposition and enough protest mobilize, perhaps the army will try to find it out and let him go on some technical basis. I asked Mrs Vivienne Williams, who is Ron LaK man's mother. What was

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her reaction to her son's decision. Well, I was very proud of Ronald because I know that what he's doing is right and his fight is not in Vietnam, but it is right here in the United States or back home in Philly, where he belongs. Do you

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feel that Ron would probably stay in the army and do some other jobs such as Hospital Corman or fewer medical man or something like that. As long as he didn't have to go to Vietnam. Yes, I believe he would do that. As long as he didn't

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have to go to Vietnam. I think that that would be just wonderful for him. If Mr Lockman loses his case, it could mean six years in a federal prison and a dishonorable discharge from the United States Army. This is Carlton cordell reporting with.