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Yeah, yeah. Names, uh, most of whom they spotted going in or coming out. I am not, uh, going to, uh, attempt to speak for these gentlemen in any way form of fashion. I'm quite certain that they are, uh, willing I do to the extent that you

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can get the right person in the position. I don't think it's so much, I don't think there's anything magical about having hey, position of ombudsman. I think the thing to have is a man who has the guts, the integrity, the basic moral fiber to carry out

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the duties of that position and to the extent that there is no, there's not a bit and white around. They're not as many of them as we need. Then I think that the thing might even become detrimental because it could raise the aspirations of black students

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and minority groups, students on campus to the point that nothing can stop, uh, them carrying out, stop them, uh, carrying out any action that they might be necessary to, uh, alleviate their condition. Are you saying then that the go between isn't basically a sound concept? I

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do think that go between his actions, if he, if, if he is the right person drinking, okay, drink in the world. Do you think the ombudsman idea might be worth pursuing on your campus? This is a system that is relatively, you knew in the United States

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and it will have to, we'll have to wait around and see how it actually will work on our borders. We have Newark and patterson, the scenes of very severe riots in the past years. And I'm thinking in terms of the possibilities on our campus and in

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relation to what Professor Edwards has said, and I feel that this type of approach, which is much less militant than say, a rat brown approach will be much more effective in terms of relations between negro and white. Well, I'm from West Virginia University and, uh, we

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really don't have this problem, a racial problem out there. I feel that there, it's a needed to have something done here, but I don't have a real identity with it because I'm not familiar with racial problems as such. Uh, I think that he's obviously an intelligent

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individual and he always has some good ideas, but, uh, kind of against our kind of anti the way he's going about it. I feel there's a little bit too, uh, violent, maybe.