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Gary home. Stretch their story. They come on. Okay, bye bye. But okay, Kathleen Mhm the Peter. All right. Yes. I can feel free to ask him anything you want to. What all did you have to go through to get him out? Way went to, uh, it

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legal language way went through a few stumbling blocks with each other last night. Fortunately, the judge knew more law than the lawyers to fight under oath That that was a lie in the testimony before Judge Sherwin in connection with this ready habeas corpus that we had

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a hearing on on June 3rd. Mr. Cleaver, what's happening now in the appeal of your released filed by mistake? Well, I don't heard that they were going to appeal it, but I don't have any information as to what's happening with I could tell you what I

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hope happens to it. How soon do they have to find a document they did yesterday? Any problems? Just notice all this just to notice. The only problems are concerned things like has been with them about sending my manuscript out to Ramparts magazine. Our communication with my

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console there was a lot of hassle over things like that, but no problem on the personal level. Okay. Do you have any interesting response from other internees or even guards up there while you were There were There were quite a bit of interesting responses Are you

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might say that they were laying bets one way or the other on the outcome of the whole thing on the party inmates. They were all very happy to see me when this particular, uh, case. Because while my case has received quite a bit of publicity ah,

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lot of them are there for the same type of frivolous charges. Onda. They see this as a ray of hope that things might change whereby they could benefit too, because a lot of them are really in the same position that I was in. Except that, uh,

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they weren't able toe get themselves counsel to represent them in court things like this. So they see this as a positive sign that there is some hope for them also. Mr Cleaver, will you be able to continue your work with the black pants organization now that

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you're because every restrictions placed on you Well, I don't recognize, uh, any restrictions, no matter where I am in terms of, uh, my activities in the Black Panther Party. I carried on my activities while I was in prison. Um, and I would never allow anyone to

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tell me what political beliefs I should hold or when and how to express them. As a matter of fact, the judge, in his opinion, stressed the fact that the reason that Eldridge Cleaver found himself in this guard and disrepute with the adult authority in the establishment

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was the fact that he exercised his rights in his political views. And he exercised him too well to satisfy certain interests of the state. And he frowned upon that and condemned. The state judge condemned the state for its activity. In that regard, you feel there's any

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chance that the attorney general's office might yet win an appeal on this and that Mr Cleaver might yet be going back behind bars. I frankly cannot see how an appellate court could reverse judge sh Erwin's decision since Judge Sherwin took evidence and had the ability and

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the opportunity to evaluate the credibility of the witness is. And frankly, there wasn't any evidence against Mr Cleaver. None whatsoever. Mr Cleaver, what are your plans now? Well, we have a lot of unfinished business and got to return to that. Um, our primary concern has been,

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um, European Newton. I am to see to it that the public becomes aware of what's being done to this man. Um, we haven't changed in that regard. We intend to rededicate ourselves to that effort and to work hard on it and to see to it that

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he repeat Newton set free as a Black Panther Party candidate for president. What kind of a campaign campaign you're going to wage? I think that I'll ways the type of campaign that we'll communicate to people who are willing to listen on what we feel to be

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some of the solutions to the problems that air press in this country. And I think that we'll be able to do that. How I spread will your campaign be as wife Mr Understand that since hysteria under the hide of racism in America and he's setting an

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example that I hope that his fellow jurors throughout the country will have courage enough to follow Judge Crockett, a black judge from Detroit, Cisco about a month ago on racism and the law. And he pointed out the deficiency of the judiciary, along with the Black Panthers

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in the Oakland police, become more rigid because they regard each other. Do you see any possible nonviolent solution to this running feud? I expect to see the Oakland Police Department cave in any day now. I listened when I was in back of the eye trying to

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catch as much news as I possibly could to hear of chief gains being fired or sent Thio Vacaville to share a cell with Mayor Hoolahan. Who's there? Um, ex mayor of Open? I think it is on. I don't see how ah, community that large with all

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the diverse interests and all the people who have been very concerned about the tensions and the things that are going on there. I don't see how they can continue to tolerate such a vicious police chief operating such a vicious, brutal, racist police department. I think that

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anytime soon, sometime soon they're gonna kick him out and put in a man who will be willing to face up to the problems that we have today and, uh, work out the solutions that the community is demanding. I think that has to happen. And we're working

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to see to it that it does happen. First round match made to unite and focus on the other side of the story. My part was in ducking bullets fired by the policeman. This is my party. Yeah. Panthers fired some shots, did they not? This is what

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the Oakland police say. I think that in trying to deal with that particular night, um, you should either talked with my council or wait until the trial because, you see, we're in this position. If we run around telling our story and presenting our defense here and

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now, then the Oakland police on the district attorney will fabricate prosecution around the things that we safe. So I wouldn't wanna put myself in that position because they've already proven that they'll do this because they did this. And, uh, fashion that took me back to back

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over took me tobacco ville. So I don't wanna be torn down for the truth.