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mm hmm. The lawsuit is on behalf of black brown white, even an indian plaintiff who have been locked up indefinitely in tiny little cages without any procedures, due process, fair hearings. And some of these people have been told that they're going to be locked up their

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whole lives. Their mail is tampered with, Their medical care is terribly bad and it challenges this as cruel and unusual punishment. And we hope to end lock up as a penal, logical tool of infinite duration. In California. Of course, prison authorities are going to say that

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some prison prisoners have to be locked up because they're violent. What is your answer to that? Yes. I think they've answered that themselves exhibit a in this lawsuit is an article on stereotyping by robert Durand, the chief of classification of the California department of corrections and

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it says that most people are locked up because they're stereotyped because staff doesn't like them and there isn't really even any evidence to lock them up. Many of the people plaintiffs in this suit were not violent and one of them had a fistfight in 1969 and

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he is still locked up. And the other night when the department of corrections was asked about this mr Swaggart, he said, I was just aghast. Yes, he said, we have to categorize people and sometimes to the detriment of the individual. Now if they're admitting that they

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just have categories of people and one of their categories of course is black militant. I think if they're already admitting that people are in there because their categories, I think the courts are going to be very interested in taking out the individuals who are locked up.

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You might label someone a category, but you lock up an individual.