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all in the gay community. Well, I don't I don't know if it would go that far. I just think this, that if this city we're doing what Dade County purports to do that is to say, discriminate against people on the basis that they're gay, then I

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don't think there'd be any issue. Certainly, demonstrations would be both anticipated and in my view with the fact that they would take after this city as it were to vent its anger there anger against what happened in Dade County. That's where I see a strong potential

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for a backlash. And I would find that very regressive for the gay movement in this country and certainly in this city, do you think the kind of disruptions, for example, that happened at the mondial rally could help fuel a backlash? Yeah, I think so. Not that

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not that people shouldn't be able to speak out, but when you have two facts, one of them is a a vice president who I think enjoys the support of liberals throughout the country, who certainly has and have have they been, have there been? Um, I'm trying.

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Oh, definitely, definitely, they're gonna have another, they want a confrontation, you know, and it's a very difficult thing to get a mob together. First off the bat, a large group of people all in the same allegiance, whether it be black or gay or anything else and

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when you get that and you can feed on their inner hatreds and the people sidelines inner hatreds and you get a riot started, then you get what you want, which is an open confrontation, Why they want the confrontation? I really don't know. Ah violence only begets

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violence, but I don't know, we we can't figure that out. Okay. We decided to keep this really down to detect a very strong double standard there. That do you think that that rage was a factor involved or anger? Or in the demonstrations? Definitely people were very,

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very angry. Ah they were angry, they were frightened and they just wanted to express it and it did get expressed and