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Toothaker. She's wanted to be a police officer ever since she was a little girl in Lincoln Nebraska. But she didn't think then that her ambition would make her part of a major police controversy. More than ever a desire and a realization of the need to have

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lesbians and gay men on the force so that some of the actions that were taken by some of the police officers perhaps wouldn't happen again. Mhm, mm hmm, it was true. How are you resistance? But I feel by

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working on a day to day basis, then they'll get to know us as people, which we are and then we'll get to know them as people and it's inevitable. I think that we understand each other and accept each other. Do you think, do you think that

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that doesn't? Mhm Yes, the defense won t shirt on and what it did for the gays present was to strengthen our resolve to do the best we could and to see it through. But again, I have many fine individuals in the police department who are open

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to working with gays and I feel we can be a police officer since I was a little kid and I don't want to let go of that. I have never let go of it. And I have some more, I guess political reasons why I want to

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do that. It's yeah, the job that I want and fill the position that I want to fill negative attitudes or not is not going to get in my way. Okay, the gay community is now making such an all out effort to get openly gay police candidates

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is because the gays who are on the force are too scared to be open. One gay officer told me that he was afraid that if you were in a dangerous situation and he needed help, that his colleagues would not give him that help if they knew

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he was gay and See if they're going to appeal the lawsuit in 1970s, you're not dealing with robots or animals. People have emotions. You know, they have been bred morally, they're different than other people. So, you know, you're obviously going to have problems in any any

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issue that arises. There's going to be a diversion of opinion that's important to me going into. They're gay. You know, I would say if you have problems in coming out of the closet, if you think that's going to create a problem for you, then stay where

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you are at the politicians. Some politicians. The Chief of Police has said, I want the gaze out of the closet in the police department. Okay, why is he making that statement? That's the question that we really got to ask for whose benefit for the officers benefit

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or is it for the political strength of the Chief of Police or other politicians making those statements? Do you think that they should stay in the class? Anyone shut me up about being a lesbian. It's it's my life. It's me, it's who I am. Okay, accurate

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to say that this is just a story about police or just a story about gays because it's much broader than that. It's a story about social acceptance. His gaze, like other minorities, push for full acceptance in this society. It's inevitable that they should also push for

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full acceptance within one of society's most respected institutions, The police in san Francisco. This is randy, Schultz.