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Ah, At that time we opened up the vehicle. I am found the three women hostages alive, the two with minor, superficial wounds. The assistant district attorney had been shot, but he was walking. One of the inmates appeared to be still alive. All the others appeared to

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be dead. The judge was found there with half his head blown off, apparently from a contact wound, which is a close range wound, apparently caused by a shotgun blast. They shot, he sawed off shotgun which they had taped, rewired to the judges had taped. Uh, it

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could have it Could was appeared to be taped that there was why I personally sought when they walked by us down there in the courtroom, there was wire, and there was also Inspector Rattana said he does not know at this point of all the convicts involved

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in the escape attempt were involved in the planning for it or whether or not some of them just went along when it started. There are many questions as yet unanswered in this incident. Among them whether or not Marin County Court bailiffs should be armed, whether or

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not courtroom Spectators should be searched and if there's any need for security improvements in dealing with the court. Cases of San Quentin convicts. Discussions involving several Marin County agencies on these points and others are underway and will continue pedal Brian for eyewitness news at the Marin

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County Civic Center in Sandra Fell. Inspector. How did the shooting start in the van? How did that started? Shooting started shooting at this point. Assn. Eras we can determine. Uh, one of the witnesses in the van said they heard a shot,

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Uh, immediately. The judge's head was blown off. Three. Assistant district attorney then grappled. What? The inmates procured a gun and shot three of them doing this Centrum. There was other gunfire going on I was going to take together. Pardon me? Who's the meeting? Took the gun.

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At this point. We don't know that you know where the first shot came by gunfire from the police outside. Hey said that he took the gun and shot three of them, and then he was shot by one of them. Had the sheriff given orders of the

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Band B. Uh, yes, Sheriff had given orders to our department that under no conditions was any of our deputies to commence firing unless there was no other alternative. Expect you Have any of your people talked with two inmates? They're still in San Quentin regarding the planet

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or planning or motive of this particular instance. They're being questioned at this time. Is there any understanding, sir, that one of the San Quentin guards opened fire first? No, this isn't my understanding, Inspector. Which witness in the band told you that you heard a shot, then

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the card Was that the essence to see? Turn himself? Yes. Shoutout soft. Hey, stated he heard a shot through the is near, as we can determine at this time from some witnesses in the area. We have a tremendous amount of statements coming in from people who

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saw this from all angles. Uh, from one witness on the scene, he states at, uh, two shots were fired at the San Quentin guard, and he then return the fire. This is one statement we have upon investigation. The crime scene. We find that the car behind

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which the San Quentin guard this place does have a bullet hole in it, and it was fired from the truck with a small caliber weapon. This seems to be before rapid killed. Uhh! I couldn't ascertain at this time. We're just piecing the story together. The assistant

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district attorney A to this time, this tentative statement. And you have to understand, he was in serious condition when he spoke very hesitantly. There have been, uh, indications or rumors that this is a conspiracy that involved more than the four men who were in the courtroom

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and possibly involved a militant organizations. Have you checked into that? We're checking into this now. As of this moment, we don't have any definite information that anyone other than those that were involved at the time who were involved. It isn't true charm that Jackson had visited

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San Quentin visited. Some of the men were involved way have information to the fact that Jackson had had had visited the San Quentin. I don't have this documented as of this moment. I was just advised this a short time ago that in the last week or

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so he had been a visitor there. I don't know what hours I don't know, uh, particularly what inmates he had visited visited more than just his brother is currently in San Quentin. Another Jackson e believe he's in San Quinn. He's involved in the killing in Solar

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Dad, and he's currently in San Quentin at this time.