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as we are concerned, they will be binding in to the extent that the teachers would then have expressed themselves and they have chosen the majority spokesman. And then when that's the the representative of that organization appears before the board, we feel that this will carry a

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great amount of weight upon the board. And whether or not it's legally binding, we're not concerned about it at this time. We're we're concerned with making changes in the schools in san Francisco and we believe that teachers are on the front line of this educational business

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and we know where the problems are and when we have this kind of instrument, the election or an organization is elected, that we can then carry some weight and that's what we're concerned about. Do you think the California Teachers Association and the other organization will go

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out of existence once this poll is completed? No, this is not the case. And there are other cities and matter of fact, all the major cities in this country have gone through this polling process. In some cases, mergers have have occurred as a result of some

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election. The other organization will stay in existence, the one that runs the minority votes, it will function as a watchdog