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about simply talk. You feel that, Uh, what you accomplish in symposiums of this kind actually are going to bring the concrete results that you're looking for. Well, I could have said to too much talk to myself. So long as this is an end in itself, talk

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has to precede action. And generally there's certainly collective action. So it's a good thing to have talked, but if it becomes an end in itself and is bad and this is what often happens, unfortunately, but I think that we are going to go beyond this. We're

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trying to start a black status program at State College, and I think that it has the greatest and last hope to solve the educational problems of the black race in this country. Have there been any surprises at the symposium so far as you're concerned? No. Because

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I knew the persons who are participating, and, uh, they were chosen in large part because of their, uh, expertise and insights. So I, uh, it's pretty much, uh, what I expected. What would you say has been the high point of the black today symposium? Well, I

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wouldn't really know. I think that each speaker was a high point, and certainly after after each speech, people seem to think that's the high point. So I guess tomorrow we'll have another half point.