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the one of the issues that I see central to the secretary of State's office is the influence of lobbyists in sacramento, not only on the uh day to day operation where they're spending a million $200,000 a year but also in campaign contributions this year. The campaigns

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in the state are gonna cost Between 15 and $20 million. And of that sum from my conversations with campaign managers, I estimate the lobbyists may fully contribute half that. And when you have that kind of a situation the average taxpayer is not going to get a

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square deal. The special interests are are going to get favorite treatment. That's just the way it is. And I think this is the thing people ought to be talking about. I think a lot of taxpayers will be pretty shocked at the fact that campaigns cost so

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much. Do you think the democrats have something particularly? Yeah, I think this idea that the republican party has of gagging each candidate so that one cannot comment comment on the other is is undemocratic. It's it's against the best interests of the electorate. I think we should

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take the gag off and and discuss the issues and let the people make up their minds this idea of sending out a canned commercial from Hollywood to all the tv stations and having them run it without any open debate is really a deception. It's a fraud

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on the people and an open debate is the way to overcome that