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Yeah, yeah. Dave fraser entered the courtroom to hear the final verdict whether the judge would exercise his power to change the penalty as his client turned his back on the judge. Defense attorney James Jackson made two motions, one for a new trial and one that the

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death penalty be reduced. Judge Charles frantic denied both. He sent its fraser to die in the gas chamber at san Quentin saying he thought in this case the death penalty was justified. After the hearing, I asked the defense attorney and the prosecutor their reaction to the

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case, I sincerely believe he's crazy and I think that it's unreasonable to think otherwise frankly, but mm do you think that it was proven in the court that he was crazy? Certainly not to the satisfaction of the jury, but do you think that the testimony substantiated

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your belief that he's insane? On balance the people that testified he was, he was insane or people who saw him extensively and who have the academic and the experience credentials to say something like that psychiatrists testified for the prosecution were terrible. I mean, they based their

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opinion on a letter they got from the district attorney. They saw him briefly. They weren't even acquainted with their own field adequately. Thank you. Uhh Mr chang much of the case hinged on whether or not the defendant was insane. Do you at this point feel that

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he is sane as the jury found? Yes, he is sane. The man's murderer. He's a callous calculating murderer who murdered five people. And the jury couldn't come to any other conclusion than that, and they were a very conscientious jury. They deliberated that issue for a long

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time, uh, and then it came to the right decision in all three cases. That is that in all three cases that's right. The death penalty's was this was a proper case for the death penalty and they inflicted it. Thank you. I appreciate how you feel about

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your sentence. Wow, I don't know what