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My interest in the cases I've told the mother is is on the question of the penalty. This'll is a human being who is being put in the public advert wand. I have a feeling, as I think most of us now most of our judges against capital

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punishment. I think by the time that the Saran case gets the California Supreme Court or to the United States Supreme Court, capital punishment will hopefully be a thing of the past. What is your strategy going to be if you take this case? Well, it's not a

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question of strategy. I think that we all know that the attacks that are being made on capital punishment and there are a number of one that there are no guidelines to let a jury know what to do. It could be completely caprice or purely arbitrary. And

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and life is too dear, even in the day of Vietnam to have a jury sitting quietly and determining whether a man lives or is put to death just upon Caprice. I've had cases where jurors wanted to get home to cook a family dinner and they acceded

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to the other 11 so that they could get a death penalty. Now, a thing like that, in this day and age brutalizes all of us