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there's too many people and we'd like to see people have fewer Children and better ones. And then this is a demonstration of that, This is a little taste of what's to come if we keep on having more Children and worse ones, it's just less food for

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everybody and more crowded and it gets pretty unpleasant. I can't figure out from this. If you're an optimist or pessimist, I assume you're you're troubled about the state of the world and yet you're doing something you hope will will have a bearing on rectifying that. How

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do you place yourself? I've wondered about that. I think everybody in here lives someplace that isn't either optimist or pessimist were deeply concerned, but if we were hopeless, we wouldn't be doing anything right. This is Evan white reporting for eyewitness News from Hayward from your vantage

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point, do you think the awareness of the problem is growing or more people becoming aware of it? It's growing is a kind of an academic thing, that population is a problem, but it's the people who say population is a problem with one another is still having

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34 or five kids. We had one guy here last night had 11 kids and on television we saw an ad for a lady selling breakfast food who was bragging how she had six kids. Well she tripled the population all by herself. Someone asked one of the

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young girls taking part in this hunger show, Aren't you afraid of simply being written off as freaks doing your thing and she replied as far as she was concerned, the freaks were the ones on the outside who were continuing to overpopulate and explode nuclear weapons. And

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she said like you and me used too many paper bags and most of all those who won't acknowledge there's a problem. Mhm.