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unraveled. At least part of the uncertainty surrounding friday shooting. For example, on the question of who shot first Inspector Ron Rihanna says it was apparently the convicts. Mhm. In the criminal field, there'll be a general tightening up of security. I think people are becoming more aware

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not only in our county because of this tragedy, but in other areas, criminal proceedings have a a potential for explosive conduct in the courtroom. This includes gagging of prisoners or extra armed security in the courtroom. Yes, there's no question that the days of the ability of

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the defendant to disrupt the criminal proceedings are now gone. The Supreme Court, United States Supreme Court has told us that judicial proceedings may be conducted and must be conducted in the judicial atmosphere and if necessary, if a defendant insists on disrupting the trial by his conduct

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will be gagged or removed if necessary, that he cannot prevent the trial from taking place merely because of his own misconduct. In this sense, the legal pendulums would seem to be swinging back to the right. It's quite obvious that the the trend of legal decisions to

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protect the rights of the individual has probably reached its high point and that more and more recognition of the interests and the needs and the rights of the general public and the community are going to be recognized. I think the individual rights have now been more

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than amply protected by our high court rulings and I think that there'll be a more balancing from here on in of the community rights as well as the individual's rights. Inspector Rihanna is noticeably less explicit about the theory of a possible plot to free the so

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called soledad brothers. He says there is simply no conclusive evidence at this point and that alone should keep the theory alive for some time to come. Meanwhile, marin County Superior Court, Judge E. Warren McGuire, the man who assigns all the criminal cases to the various county

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courts here, says he feels that more should be done to protect the public and criminal cases. McGuire and other judges will meet with law enforcement officials later this week to discuss courtroom security mike lee eyewitness news at the marin County Civic Center in san rafael. The

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only reason we even consider it is because of the incident that happened in marin County on friday afternoon, but why a prison, why not simply beef up security in in the courtroom where the trial would normally be held? I would have thought that we have the

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have more security than the lesson. The lesser additions that you have to transport the prisoners. For example, it might provide more security for the, for the jurors. You can imagine the difficulty we're going to have and getting people who will be willing to serve as jurors

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in a case such as a solid case after the internet in marin County. And we thought that, wow. Well, I guess we're gonna have to practically guarantee the safety of George in order to get them to serve our thinking was and maybe that's one place where

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they could be assured of not being molested someone. One of the prisoners or suspects fired at the guard at that sign of gunfire that the judge judge was then shot. Not necessarily. And I don't believe by the same person, you must remember that this is a

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van closed van with four people and maybe very possible that if the judge was shot by one of the suspects that perhaps he didn't realize who fired the first shots. Or again, as I stated previously, the men are under a tremendous pressure and at the first

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sign of gunfire perhaps thinking it came from outside or that they were shooting at them. In response to this original gunfire. He then fired upon the judge. The first shots were fired from the van apparently by the driver had an officer, a san Quentin guard who

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was behind a car that was adjacent to the van that was parked. Then what happened at that point? The officer returned fire at the driver who was in the van. Have you been able to determine why those shots were fired from the van? If no shots

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were fired at the van first, only to this extent that uh when the chuck starts when it stopped or was coming to a stop. One of the witnesses close by heard what appeared to be a large amount of discussion and arguing, Excuse me going on within

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the van that perhaps there was a change in plans or something occurred that changed their plans. That perhaps uh this caused them uh to begin shooting into your. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.