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pull it down with so Well. Uh huh. Mhm. You know my idea preaching christ is to go out in the world and tell young people that can be cured of their habits. They can be set free. But what I'm here heard here you fellas seem to

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be telling these young people that they can have christ and still have their LSD have their plot and uh just get rid of your hang up. Been listening. You haven't dan telling you. Haven't been listening. I heard you say pot is groovy. No, I heard you

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say plotted group told us to go out and preach was the hope of eternal life and the hope of salvation. He didn't. He says in the word of God, that bodily attainments will avail you little bit. Godliness is good in this life and hereafter, don't don't

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you preach christ, Don't you preach? Christ can heal and change your life and heal your problems? Sure, But are you present to you? Yes, he's caribbean. I I haven't had to take LSD to find God. Well, I wonder I'm one I'm wondering dave, which is more

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important Or are there any degrees in sin? No, but see you gentlemen Aussie, you Lord, you said we have to be honest. The Lord tells us to sell all of our possessions and follow him. Yeah, but doesn't doesn't the Lord asked us to do that honestly

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though. What was that word in your mouth, man. Honestly. Yes, honestly. I want you to tell me you know what this guy told us. He told us that this wasn't rigged that he was going to give us a straight interview with some kind of not trying

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to be honest. He's deliberately loaded his questions to stimulate a reaction from us instead of asked us what we think, What we think is that everybody, everybody should accept the Lord, jesus christ as their personal savior and be saved and then quit their habits, quit their

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LSD. You fellas, you fellas told me you went out and took LSD and read the Book of revelation. Now I'm getting a little angry because I can I go out in the street preaching that christ delivers and you guys are out here preaching that you can

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smoke pot. You can take LSD and I think that's a permissive statement. That's gonna damn the lives of thousands of our teenagers. I hope, I hope all of you have noticed that I talk about God and this gentleman talks about drugs. You're talking about using them.

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I'm talking about being cured from them. We're talking about we're trying to talk religion. And your your gentlemen preached crisis. Still smoke pot. Wait a minute. Dave you preach christ and still sin, you judge. Not lest you be judged. I'm not judging you. I'm angry that

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you can preach christ is still smoke pot and tell these kids and haight Ashbury, you you said it was you saying yes or no? I'm popped out yesterday man. Do you since you're the one who's copping out. You know, I I want you to ask. I

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want you don't cop out of me. I want you to answer this question. Are you preaching christ you're still telling me I'm preaching. Christ, christ, crucified my Lord and Savior. What do you preach? I preached that when he was crucified his blood cleanses from all in

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righteousness and all the powers in. How about that? Well, don't you? Yeah. Well why can't, why do you still tell these kids that they can be hung up on there? Just get it done. You do. No, no, no, completely. We say that. We don't say, I

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didn't say we didn't say that. I didn't say that. He said it. Well, your ministry here proves it. Our ministry here proves that we are ministers. I think that's all you know, I can tell you that I'm still angry. I'm still angry because you have nice

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clothes. I know, but it's still, it's just from what I've overheard here that uh, like, like steve mentioned and still trying to be objective about it. How, how you can still smoke pot or take LSD and still preach sanctify. How can you, how can you own

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a cadillac and a lot of nice answer that I want to, I want to know the stones and I'm angry at my heart, mother guys can do that? He seems to like centers, but I got to tell you that you could how could God that you

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could smoke a stick apart. You're not God. I'm not God. I don't I don't believe God tells anybody to smoke a stick apart. I don't believe he tells anybody to do that. Well you told me you took God told you could smoke a stick apart. I

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prayed, I prayed about it and I didn't, he didn't tell me to do it. Because does God tell you what I am where those fine clothes? Does God tell you? It's okay. I'm asking you how I'm asking. I'm asking you how can you preach christ to

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wear those clothes distances? But also he says expose, expose those who are not preaching christ. Right? Mhm. $40 we were trained to do. I'm not tricking anybody. It's getting to me how these guys that price. That's the dust on my shoes. Well that's not mustard. Yes,

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he is not. Not everyone is jesus christ as my Lord and savior. But not everyone that says Lord Lord's under the Kingdom of God. You gentlemen say Lord Lord and you cannot enter the Kingdom of God and still smoke pot and take LSD. You can't do

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it. No central enter heaven. Right. Do you send yes or no were made righteous to the blood of jesus. Yesterday you want to know I'm quoting the word. Don't interest me. The name of jesus christ may your heart be open so that you can give us

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a straight yes or no, can you? There is no way No way I don't smoke pot. I a generation I any man, well we gotta wrap up dan, I understand that you approve of the work being done by reverend Wilkerson and you also approve of the

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work being done here by ted and steve. Yes, I do. I believe that both groups basically are on the right track. They're both preaching the gospel of jesus christ. It's just that one group has a difficulty in communicating with the other and they, there's a lack

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of understanding between the two groups. I feel like as far as these people now, these people have come out of a drug world, they use drugs, they were saved from drugs and they do not believe that they have to tell somebody else to stop using drugs

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to find a real true relationship with jesus christ. They believe that if the bible is right and the bible teaches that the spirit of God will lead all men in the truth, then all we have to do is give ourselves to christ and he will lead

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us out of drugs or out of the things which are against God and away from God into a true relationship which is pure with christ. And it's hard for mr Wilkerson, a reverend Wilkerson to see this because all he sees is hippies on the street up

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here in Ashbury district that are all these fraggle and and and decay looking and morally just going down the tubes. Yeah, reverend Wilkerson, you seem to be quite angry. I I think so. I'm tired of these bob Dylan preachers and normal kind of ministers who go

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around the streets on these kids that they can have all this in jesus to, they can smoke pot, they can take LSD and I have 23 cents for narcotic addicts and they call me, they talk about love and they had to slap me in the face.

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And that's the trouble with hate Aspirin. We need more ministers down there preaching uh that these kids can clean up these kids. They aren't cleaning up anybody. I think sometimes they're indulging as much as anybody else. Your latest book is why our Children go wrong or

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right. Why do they? Well, I think today we have parents that are afraid to spank their kids, I believe would shed therapy. We're turning our, which heads into garages. We don't have any mothers and dads have enough courage to stand up and say, no, we've got

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a permissive attitude like we have from these ministers towards sin. And we have chicken hearted leadership today and we have a church that is permissive and uh, the church is no longer a haven of rest. They're not preaching the gospel. And I think I'm not indicting

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the whole church and I believe involvement too, but not entanglement like we have today. Total disparate total breakdown of discipline, Respect for law and order. That's why you have this riot happening right now In san Francisco, we need somebody with enough courage to stand up and

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throw some of these kids out of the school and take a stand of discipline. A voice of authority is needed, and we need it right now.