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Yeah. Yeah. Well, strangely enough, in many ways, I tend to believe that the most solid economic base for an alternative or independent broadcast system in this country is the audience and that necessarily when you're involved in federal funding, if it doesn't have strings attached, it can

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all too easily become a political issue. So I think that federal funding at best is a very risky source of funding. So what would be the ideal source of money From my point of view, the ideal source of money for a broadcast operation like this would

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be our audience. How many subscribers, what you need and not as a totally budget to cover our budget totally. We would have to considerably more than double our membership would probably take in the neighborhood of 150,000 members. What can we look forward to as perhaps a

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new kind of programming concept for KQED viewers? Well, there's so much that we want to do. I can take the next 15 minutes describing it ranges all the way from bringing back certain kinds of programs that we used to do a few years ago. It could

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even be in the area of state chamber music drama. We can look forward uh forward to an increase in programs such as the ready or not series, which is produced by the teach production unit here at KQED. And there are so many programming areas which I

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think are important to audiences in which I also think audiences want that are not presently available on either commercial or non commercial television