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Yeah, yeah, never expelled any of the lights from the organization. Nor have we approached them. You still have white officials in the organization. That is correct on the central committee, they're still lights on that committee and that committee was elected by the entire staff. What does

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this change mean that the change in leadership, what the change in leadership is just a regular change, but it means that the programs are gonna be more streamlined that we're developing and the need to have a white project. That means that our white workers must go

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into the south southern areas in the poor southern areas in the white community and organized those communities. Because what became crystal clear to us on May 4th after the Alabama primary was that there is no moderate base in the south and the white communities. There is

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none. And that it wants to be developed. It has to be developed by the student nonviolent coordinating committee and it must be developed by the white Workers in that organization. It cannot be developed by the black workers. You don't feel that you, do you think there

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was any maliciousness in the apparent misinterpretation of what developed at your last meeting? I certainly think there was misinterpretation, it was malicious on the part of many of the press media in this country. Could you name any specifically this? I think the new york times in

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an editorial which was called sabotage in Alabama maliciously left out precisely the laws of Alabama, which stated that if you were setting up an independent political organizing, you could not both vote in the democratic primary and in your primary, you had to vote in one and

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not the other. And the times just left out the fact that that was the law and said that we were aging negroes not to vote. Why have you refused to participate in the White House conference center? Where else? While we stated that number one, that we

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found the foundations and consequences of racism are not rooted in the behavior of black americans yesterday or today, but there in fact rooted in the behavior of white americans. And the fact that white America has always tried to exploit black people and that what they do

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is shift the brain from whites to blacks. And that's precisely what that conference is trying to do. But the more sophisticated about it, they're saying that what you think should be done and what do you think should do it to prevent another outbreak such as occurred

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in Watts. But I think the only thing that can be done is that the people and what have to move to control their neighborhoods, they have to move to control them politically and economically. So then the responsibility does lie with the black community in terms of

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doing that. Yes. Because what they have, what means is how they're going to, they're going to have to uproot the power that exists in the agencies that control those communities. How can this be done? Well, they'll have to find ways to do it. That's what they

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have to start moving towards either politically or economically or however they see fit. What does anything Sydney White House.