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a real culture. I think our cover and in front of a huge loss. I'm not a great quarter was piece of me, you know. You know? Well, I got it. All right. I'm sure. Yeah. That report. It's a workout. Yeah. Mountain. Oh, yes. I think we

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don't find ourselves, but I believe you do. We're going to come out. Mhm. Mhm. Harry. I had to break my promise because the parties wanted to count The eligible ballots first and take the challenge ballots 2nd. So I couldn't invite you back in. But I can

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give you if you have been in here for the count, you'd have heard it and you could have kept score. So I'm gonna give it to you as we haven't recorded. Okay, Now this is not this is not counting challenge ballots or those that we will

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resolve in this next portion of the meeting. All right. Uh let's understood this is not the final result of this election. Okay. Everybody understands that this is not the final result of this election. Okay. When will we know that? Probably tomorrow morning sometime. Okay. Uh, our

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formal count showed excuse me. Are informal account showed 223 ballots cast for the teamsters. 131 ballots cast for the United Farm workers. Oh, zero ballots cast for no union. And there were two void ballots. Okay, that's approximately how many a challenge ballot. All right. We haven't

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we haven't opened the box. So, I I don't know. I can't really give you a figure on that. So, I got a little bit of work to do with my staff before we start again. Oh, richard. Right by tonight. Can we get could you, could you

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tell us what the result of all this is? Well, we don't know the results yet. The board has decided not to count the challenge ballots. They're going to let I guess the sacramento rule on the economic strikers and on the security guards, there were 36 or

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more security guards that voted. We were never given a complete list of the security guards, so we're not exactly sure how many Total security guards there were. We do know that there are 123 economic strikers that voted um, that were entitled to vote under the law.

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And in addition to that, we challenged about how many other people? About 10 others, I believe supervisors and office, I worked with About 10. Those economic strikers are enough to turn the results around. They certainly are. They're all they're all they all came to vote for

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the since it's going to the board and it's been branded as leaning in favor of Chavez. Do you think you have a pretty good chance of getting all those votes? Yes, we do. How long do you think this is gonna take? Well, they abide by that

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48 hour rule. It's hard to say. It seems like the it's an unpredictable, unpredictable, uh you know, it's very difficult to say what the border street, we had no idea that there was not going to be really made tonight. Uh, Apparently the uh Mr Belton knew

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that he was going to make that rule, but he didn't tell us that ahead of time. They asked if we did not mind counting the other votes first, of course we said no, but then after we finished those, we thought we're going to proceed with the

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challenge vote so that we could get a tally this evening. We had no idea whatsoever that he was going to uh pass those votes upstairs. Had we known that maybe our position might have been different. So how do you feel about the way things look other

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things like? Well, I think that they look good for the United Farm workers to win this election. I'm disappointed personally in the conduct of the board again, in their lack of courtesy for the union knowing what an important election it is for us is. I guess

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all all of them are that they couldn't have been fair with us and told us what they were going to do ahead of time for me about not telling about not counting the challenge votes the Teamsters challenged. Okay, how do you feel about the fact that

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the whole issue of the security guards and the economic structures are going to go to the board in Sacramento department? Who was that question again? How do you feel about the fact that the economic strikers and the issue of the security guard is going to go

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to the board in Sacramento? Well, I hope the board in Sacramento is will be as fair as this board was. I thought this board did a fine job or this part of the board, you've given the numbers that you've got now, Mr Mascius does, would you

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agree that it would look if all the challenge votes were counted, that the U. F. W. Would win it? Mhm. If they were all counted, if all the economic strike votes go are okay by the board, that means uh you fw saying that they're going to

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vote for you. FW looks like you'll lose. Well, like I said before, I'm hoping that the board will take into consideration a lot of those economic strikers. I did vote. I'm hoping that they'll give it a real close look at the issue of the security guards.

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How do you feel about that? I think they're going to play an important part in this and I think they should be counted. It's not a commercial organization, they are on gallows payroll, they do support the farm worker, do it. Okay, lets if the if the

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board agrees to allow the challenge, I mean, the economic strikers to vote is going to challenge that decision, I'm sure there'll be appeals and all that sort of thing. In other words, gallo is against having the Economic strikers vote in this election. Actually not to see

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the board is never defined truly what is an economic striker. And I think that's one of the reasons that these ballots are going to go to sacramento. And I think once we get a different definition of who is and who is not an economic striker, I

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think that'll that'll settle an awful lot. What about the question of the security guards? Well, that too, will be settled gal a favor allowing the security guards to vote in. The security guards are a part of the of a mishmash of challenges. And the challenges. I

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don't even know the I don't think anybody really knows the true number because the box has been, you know, the boxes sealed. We've got challenges from the teamsters on a number of you have w thing on a number of you have w people we have uh

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teamster challenges against U. F. W. We got you FW challenge against teams. So we've got gallo challenges. I think the guards are part of it, the economic strikers are part of it, who is eligible to vote just generally. And it's the challenges that the board will

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determine. And we trust that they'll be worked out fairly by the board. then you're, there's a possibility that if they if the board allows the most of the economics records to vote, then the winds, do you think you're gonna get a fair hearing from the port?

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That may not be the case at all? Because, uh, the way we're looking at the election, it's going to be close, even if the, it seems it will probably be close. Even if the, even if the economic strikers are allowed, when I'm sure that many of

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them will be challenged by the teamsters are by gallo. I don't know the problem right now is no one really knows what constitutes an economic striker. And that's one of the reasons that the board, that the, this was one of the first elections in which this,

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this whole issue of economic strikers was a major part. And as a result, I think the board is, uh has to make a determination and only after the board determines. We'll get an answer. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. They decided to okay diversity somewhere my gallo and

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instruct some work director for something place. Okay. What how do you feel about the fact that many about the vote of the payroll workers? Well, you know, we have the same problem about 70 workers didn't vote and that's that's our people and their harassed and intimidated.

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And there's tremendous pressure from the teamsters in the growers and that's that it shows up in the elections and has been the constant battle we've had. You know, it's a tremendous pressure, intimidation and harassment, 70 people didn't vote. And that's that's a lot that's a lot

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of guards and supervisors and clerical staff and so forth. Okay. If the board votes to allow economic strikers to vote, this is going to have repercussions all over the state, what will it mean for you for the U. F. W. Well, so we're battling uh as

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you can see here today about 70 people didn't vote. Those are people didn't vote because they were frightened and the economic strikers are going to in many cases make the difference if we find them since we have had to find him as a difficult task. But

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we did find about 100 23. About 100 and 65 here. What about economic strikers and other on other ranches? Well, we have one. Oh yeah. Uh. Uh huh. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. That's