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I changed your feelings. Well, for one thing, okay, in the past, I was always willing to stand in the background. Let somebody else do the activism that somebody else do the pushing and the chanting and the shouting. But you know, after what happened to me last

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night, I mean, I didn't do a damn thing to provocation what they did to me. You know, I was just sitting in this bar, you know, just having a drink and after last night, well, I'm not going to stand in the background anymore. You know what

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happened last night? I want to make sure it doesn't happen again. You know, my rights were violated and okay, I'm lost in glasses and shoving everybody toward the back of the bar. They were going down the bar knocking glasses off and I saw the glass and

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everything falling and took to customers and got down on the floor behind the bar right here. So I get out of the way of the glass and because there's a lot of flying club and hit me in the head and then what did he do? He

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just pulled us and threw us out of the upper arm and the lower back. Wait, the problems here, well, was absolutely clear cut issue. The police started the problems last night before their arrival on the scene, there were people

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around, surely there are people on the sidewalks, there was nobody in the streets, there was no bricks being thrown, no bottles being thrown, nothing like that. Nothing happened until the police arrived in force. And then how did they behave towards the people here? Um Well they

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came in large numbers and they came in their in their with their tactical units marching down the street. Um They lined up in far in front of the largest group of people which were concentrated on the sidewalk, kitty corner across the street, at the donut shop

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there. There are also places up and down the street. There's some on this side of the street. How did you, how do you say in 25 words or less, how did they act, how did they act? I feel that I feel that they are responsible for

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the actions that took place in the end. The if you want to characterize it as a riot that took place that night. Um There are reports that one of the, one of the captains on the Police department had a S. K. Y. Steve is the first

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and only one question. Some people are saying this is all going to be counterproductive. And what do you think Any violence is counterproductive. But you look at the history of any movement that when the Jews fought back in Warsaw, that when the blacks burn a few

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American cities in 69, the biggest the prejudice people of the world, the homophobes are not going to approve of anybody, know what what you do. But once a little about you show that you're willing to fight back any animal. Once it gets in the corner will

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turn and fight back then these people at least you have respect. I'm not condoning last night, but I saw I saw a lot of people going through the thing I was going to have two people inside me fighting. And one wonders said, let's be a monitor,

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let's stop this violence. Just stop the window breaking. And then I turned around and I see the police will tell you, I see three or four policemen brutally beat innocent people that we're trying to stop the violence. And another part of me says, I've got to

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stand up and fight. Are there any leaders right now in the gay community? Are there any leaders if the brave souls and we saw after turning the cheek and getting burnt and gas for years, hadn't finally said enough is enough. Okay. And I think that's what

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it's come to. Okay, okay, I need to listen to your where were you down here, sitting city Hall and I was here when I was coming, I got home to get some maybe come down to get Today. It looks like the gay movement is taking the

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path of many other minority movements of the 1960s. But where that path goes next is anybody's guess. So, today it looks like the gay movement is following the path of other minority movements of the 1960, but where they're so today it looks like the gay movement

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is following the path of other minority movements from the 1960s. But where that path goes next is anybody's guess. right let's go. You had people who were outraged last night and they were outraged at the verdict. They were outraged at being kicked out by their families

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having to migrate to san Francisco. Um they're outraged at the violence, our own people being beaten up um young people in the high schools being traumatized. Um our city gay people, we have a history of coming from other places throughout the country and I saw a

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lot of a lot of people really angry and I think that each person had their own anger and their own story why they were angry. So you think it's anger that goes beyond just the particulars of what happened yesterday in court? Yes. I think that I

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think the Harvey himself would would put it in the total perspective that violence against gay people harvey's death was nothing new. We've had violence against us um for hundreds of years, it hasn't even been reported in the media. Um It continues to this day, we talk

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about justice and states throughout this country. If this will happen. I think more people will will think about why why why have gay people migrated to san Francisco? Some people say this will hurt us politically. There'd be a backlash against us. What do you think? I

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think that many people including my parents were outraged at the verdict and I've talked to many straight people that I know, and they were all outraged and I've I've I've found a lot of understanding why people were angry and I think that, um, they're still anger

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against us. There was anger against us. There's anti gay sentiment before this happened. People that were anti gay before will now have justification for being anti gay. And they use this, um, what happened last night against us? They were they were they were beating us up

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before last night. You know, they were causing violence. Okay, um, harvey milk, gay Democratic club, gay teachers and school workers coalition, Alistair tokens, Democratic club, community night against violence. Now, what happened? Who started that riot at Castro's? The police department did no bones about it? And

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what happened? The people were milling around the corner of 18th and Castro having a quiet demonstration of sheer frustration and the police sent out four and five squad cars full of tactical police officers up and down the street, and then finally, they just stopped, parked the

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car and plowed into the crowds and started the riots themselves. Then, what do you some people think that they're gonna there's gonna be a backlash against us? We're going to lose power because what happened last night? What do you think? I think that you're going to

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finally find some of the complacency that's so inherent in the gay community, as they keep saying, we're so complacent is going to strike out. I don't think you're gonna find complacency anymore. I think it's your discussed at the city administration, the district attorney and this complexity

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of this jury of 12 people. So you think the tenor of the gay community's gonna change, it's changed already towards violence and towards we want what our basic rights are. Okay? Thank you. Don't listen. Okay. The world, Yeah.

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Yeah. Okay. Challenge. Sure. Here. Yeah. How about yourself? Mhm. Hello everybody, Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Make a little hole, please. Okay.