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elusive enough to link the murderer of Celia shepherd to other murders in the Valeo area in the past year. Anywhere in the Bay Area or anywhere he should go to the nearest law enforcement agency and turn himself in and we will try to do whatever we

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can to help this man. Does it seem to you as if you're pretty much on the verge of finding this man? Well, I wouldn't want to say that. Dave. Uh we're hoping we've we've got some good things working for us, but it takes time and to

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be able to reach out and pluck this guy out of the air isn't done in most murder cases. You'll find a motive. But of course this guy is just a killer, a mad killer and you have no motive. So it makes it a little bit harder

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for us to track him down. It's also fairly obvious that the man greatly enjoys the publicity that surrounds this thing. And there's a chance that man could be watching this interview. That's true. What would you have to say to this man? Uhh, about? The only thing

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I could say to him would I think he realizes he needs help. I'm sure he does and I'm sure he realizes what he's doing. And this is to me it's a sex crime. He's doing this for gratification and I feel that he should definitely seek aid

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at any agency that he wants to go to in law enforcement. If I remember right, uh, in speaking with one of the deputies who was investigating this thing, he said that the first thing you told a deputy out there was to give some idea of a

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description of the man. Do you understand now how your mind was able to work that well under those conditions that you really did an exceptional job in that? Well, to the whole thing, like I mentioned before, I at the beginning, I did think I was going

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to die. And so from that moment on, one has to have certain goals that you have to set. The first goal, of course, was to live. Uh, I suppose the second goal was to get untied. The next one was to get help from getting help, uh,

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getting to the hospital. You know, you have to have a successful set of goals. And if you can keep this going and you can keep your mind active, I don't know whether you die or not, you're at least psychologically, uh, a tune whether you're in shock

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or not. If you can keep arguing with yourself, praying, doing anything to keep your mind off of yourself or at least just not lapsing back and just saying, well, it's no use brian will probably be able to leave Queen of the Valley Hospital fairly

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soon. But where he's going from here is being kept secret in the event that the man who attacked him and killed Cecilia Shepard on lake Berryessa. We could go saturday tries again. Brian made it for two reasons some people might regard as intangibles but reasons that

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for him were enough a strong faith and an equally strong will to live. Dave Montes eyewitness news at Queen of the Valley Hospital napa. Okay. You know that this man is still at large and that there is a better than average possibility that this could be

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the same man who was involved in four murders over in Valeo. Uh, can you think of anything that you might want to tell that man at all? I considered him a robber. I had absolutely no thought, uh, that he

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was anything but that. And when we're at this robbery stage, I didn't consider any real threat to my life or or to the girl or anything. I didn't consider this. But I really wanted to help him. And did he seem as though he would like your

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help at all? No, he didn't. He didn't even end up taking the money. But he I don't know grudge. Well of course not. I don't I don't think that that he was acting under his total complete uh total complete consciousness. And uh one a man is

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if you build my reason, the words sick, you can't you can't hold this against them. But the real concern that I have is that he doesn't do this again. I would like I uh I'd like to see some people save this this experience. Early last Saturday

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evening, Celia, Shepherd and Bryan Hartnell both in their early 20s were sitting on this knoll of land overlooking part of Lake Berryessa. They thought they were alone. But there was a third man on this knoll. A man who wore a medieval style executioner's hood, carried a

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knife and gun and intended to use them. Yeah. Yeah. I've had 11 years patrol on this lake and I've seen a lot of people cut up by boat accidents in this. But this is um one of the worst things I've ever witnessed for no reason

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at all. Just a hooded man came up with a pistol drawn on them, tied him up and then told him he had to kill him. So. Mhm. Mhm. Okay. Yeah. This guy is a pathological cycle killer. There's no doubt about it. Is there any doubt in

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your mind that there is there is not any connection between Valeo and very this we're sifting out now. I wouldn't say that there is any connection yet. I wouldn't want to tell you that there isn't at this time. Uh We have some pretty good physical evidence

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that we're working on now. And of course we're going to get together with the voi authorities. We've been in contact with them since the incident and we definitely will pool our resources. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm tied him up that he still didn't take the money. The kids

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of the money is in my pocket. He said I don't want the money. All I wanna do is kill you. You haven't arrived on the scene that Saturday night around 7 13. What a found this young girl in on the shoreline here all stabbed in several

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places. Yeah. And her boyfriend. Male companion came to from he had been stabbed and he had taken off for help. And the other patrolman came in which is Dennis Lamb. He found him some 100 yards from here, passed out. He brought it back to the scene

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of the where the girl was 7:40 p.m. Officers slate at the napa Police Department received this call and the subject stated, I want to report a murder, no a double murder. They are about two miles above park headquarters in Lake Berryessa and they are driving a

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Volkswagen Karmann Ghia. And with that the officer asked, well, where are you now? And he stated, I did it. And with that the officer could feel that there was nobody on the line. He said, are you there, are you there? And there was no answer.